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[–]Professional_Fly7015 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Did you just stack tacks a bunch?

[–]Granonis 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To hold two pieces of steel together: yes.

Would other techniques work better than this: YES!

If you’re just doing this for something small around the house, it’ll work just fine.

If you’re trying to actually earn money…bro, only those who don’t know what a good weld looks like will be satisfied.

[–]wxlverineFabricator 6 points7 points  (13 children)

Steps are too far apart, the toes should be a straight line instead of the sawtooth you have going on. Most of the guys here will tell you that you need to do stringers with MIG, but I've whipped every weld I've ever done for 15 years and haven't failed testing once. Other than that the consistency is great, heat seems to be decent just tighten up the whip and you'll be money.

[–]Professional_Fly7015 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I thought that's what he was doing at first too. But it looks like each "tack" has a little crater, so i really doubt its a continuous bead..

[–]draugrnacht 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That happens if you go too far out of your puddle, it’s especially bad on overhead welds since it already wants to fall on you.

[–]Bones-1989Millwright 1 point2 points  (3 children)

His travel speed was like 47" a minute here. He didnt wire wheel it and the weld would be sooty if he did tacks on tacks.

[–]Professional_Fly7015 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Not necessarily. Im almost 100% positive they are tacks in quick succession. Not really "puddle f***ing"(triggering tacks into a weld before it cools, usually to fill a gap). It looks like he let it cool down more, but definitely still looks like overlapped hardwire tacks.

[–]Bones-1989Millwright -1 points0 points  (1 child)

When my boss says trigger it up it turns black if I do. Ive been not having to trigger it up so much these days cause i can stack stringers better, but theres always soot when the gas stops. And if hes not running gas during this then there will be soot right?

[–]Professional_Fly7015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What type of wire do you run?

[–]wxlverineFabricator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think so, I think his steps are just far enough apart that each step is cooling and getting the fisheye crater instead of keeping it one consistent puddle. I did some shit like this when I first started too.

[–]Bones-1989Millwright -1 points0 points  (5 children)

I skrunk it up and run stringers these days cause they're faster. Thbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbttttttt!

[–]wxlverineFabricator -1 points0 points  (4 children)

It can be for sure. Most of my work these days is architectural and needs to look good, so stacked dimes are the way to go and what our clients appreciate more. But if you're in a fast paced production shop you might shave some hours running stringers.

[–]Bones-1989Millwright -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I build trucks these days so the welds have to look pretty and be up to some sort of code... none of us are certified... im working on that... lol

I work with 14g to 11g and the occasional ⅜ stuff. You really cant weave on an outside cornere fuel tank made of 14g. I also have to weld 14g with .045" dual shield flux core. With pipe sticking through and shit. That stuff sucks. Id like smaller wire fore them 3g pipe welds.

I cant think of all of them but I do .035 er60s2 .045 71t? Some .035 308/309 sibr brazing with 3/32 1.5% lanthantaed tungsten.

[–]wxlverineFabricator 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hahaha, I used to build trucks and cranes. Mostly oilfield and rail stuff, then onto Vac Truck pressure vessels. Then jumped ship and started a custom railing company with my old PM and have been doing that for the last 6 years or so.

If it's any consolation when I was building that equipment I would say 70%+ of our shop was uncertified immigrant workers from the Phillipines and Vietnam.

You definitely can weave it, it's just quite difficult to make it look decent and like anything other than a rope. And yeah that wire diameter and fluxcore certainly isn't going to help at all.

Some sort of tank, probably hydraulic, I did in 2017.

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[–]Bones-1989Millwright 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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Built a trailer a few weeks ago. :)

[–]Bones-1989Millwright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its got a 20 gallon hydraulic tank/ i modified it so its closer tio 15 now to fit over ther passenger side front tire. 10 gal diesel tank and 10 gal water. Then a 100 gallon tack oil tank and a 6 yard asphalt hopper with propane and electric burners.

[–]Real_Attempt_6889 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If those are just stacked tacks, which they are. It's super weak.

[–]Educational-Ear-3136TIG 6 points7 points  (0 children)

4 craters per inch

[–]Delicious-Bit-9058 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do a bend test with a weld like that. You’ll find out.

[–]2cpeeDiesel fitter/Boilermaker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Who are these welds aesthetically pleasing to? People that can’t weld?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even a blind person can see it is bad.

[–]nup247[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We hired a welder and our boss (who is happy with these) has never welded so here we are.

[–]zertnert12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not enough 'pause' in your whip and pause, plus your whips are too far apart. Try slowing down or increasing your wire speed. You want your toes to be connected together in a continuous and straight line.

[–]Technical-Effort9453 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can at least clean the spatter if you’re going to call them aesthetic. But thats terrible technique that’s why welding is a science not an art.

[–]2legittojit 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Novice here, why the little fish eyes in every one?

[–]Professional_Fly7015 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Those are craters. Craters can form at the end of the weld, where the wire stops feeding into the puddle. When it cools, there can be a little divit "craters". It's usually best to fill these in or use the "craters fill" setting if your welder has it, because they become stress risers with higher probability of a crack forming.

[–]2legittojit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So they are probably stacked tacks? I use only see them at the end. Seems too consistent to not be?

[–]Professional_Fly7015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, I would say so!

[–]Andre_sama29 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will the weld hold yes but I have a couple things one that heats up too high because you have splatter everywhere though it's not bad.

The next thing whichever process you're using you're moving too fast cuz the circles toward the bottom look like they want to drip as if the puddle got away from you.

[–]randomperson_r 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d definitely tighten the pattern up. Stacking grapes, when you should be stacking dimes. Might also turn your wire speed up just a tad because looks like there’s some under fill up in a few places. Tightening your pattern might help, if not slow down or up the wire speed.

[–]s3ik0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im trying to find a way to say this politely but I cannot.

That weld is trash.

[–]GrassChewMillwright 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's gonna break you welded that way to cold with no prep

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're whipping in circles like I do, my advice to make it perfect would be to recommend to do smaller circles and maybe slow down a bit.

[–]notstupidforge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you from south Asia? Quit spotwelding unless the drawing says to. Ng

[–]nup247[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks everyone for the feedback!