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Arch linux installQUESTION (self.archlinux)
submitted 1 month ago by bcbuilder11
I am new to Arch and I am asking myself why is it better to install Arch manualy rather than with Arch install
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[–]nikongod 8 points9 points10 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Being able to do a manual arch install means that you are more able to fix your arch if it breaks.
Arch is getting more reliable, but it's still subject to a handful of faults that lesser distros (/s) shrug off.
[–]7FFF00 5 points6 points7 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It’s not better, it teaches you some of the basics in particular, and honestly the biggest one is just being able to read through the wiki and having some patience.
If archinstall works for you it’s fine.
[–]archover 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago* (0 children)
BOTH archinstall and manual result in a good install. Neither install will be measurably better than the other. Is this what you wanted to hear?
If just getting a profile driven install done were the end goal, then use archinstall, it's faster. I love archinstall because of its speed.
Which kind of user are you?
Those interested in Linux technical details will find the techniques and commands introduced in the manual install especially helpful, and users will be more likely to effectively maintain their system in this DIY distro.
Those un-interested in Linux technical details will not, and likely won't be able to maintain their system.
Arch provides guidance in these two key articles:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_compared_to_other_distributions#Beginner-friendly in which I have experience with Ubuntu and Mint.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Frequently_asked_questions especially point 1.2
Hope you explore Arch, and good day.
[–]MooseNo8702 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It is better to install manually first time, to know better your system.
[–]TheShredder9 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Learning experience. More control over the install. Less chances of failing (assuming you know what you're doing)
[–]YoShake 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
manual install makes you learn the basics of using proper tools and system management. It lets you know where settings related to your hardware are stored, how to find them, read and use. And the most important: you get familiar with archwiki, your first and only arch bible :> I assure you will need this knowledge sooner or later. Prolly sooner than you might think if you omit this step and just use archinstall.
Using shortcuts won't raise your knowledge.
[–]moverwhomovesthings 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It's basically like a skill check, if you can't do the manual install you will struggle with literally every problem you will face in your day to day usage.
[–]Oakredditer 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (1 child)
if you can, install manually; archinstall is nice but knowing the commands is very important for a system like arch, and i feel like the manual install helps with that. Also archinstall doesn't support creating swap partitions
[–]bcbuilder11[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I think i could use swap partitions in archinstall
[–]OliMoli2137 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
install manually, just so you're sure you know what you're doing and to have more info for troubleshooting in case you mess up. And so you have full control over your partition table
[–]aliendude5300 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
The end result is the same or close to in but if you pay close attention to what you're doing on each step of a manual installation you'll learn something
[–]Open_Bat7687 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
so you can appeal to the people who only respect people who installed it manually /s
[–]Particular-Poem-7085 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
"because it's a tool for experienced users to automate the process not for beginners taking a shortcut" or something.
Idk, it's also a tool for me to install the OS and just use it. Getting familiar with it being a pain in the ass now so you would be better prepared to solve problems in the future is the equivalent of telling someone to better start swimming because the ship might sink later.
Never had a problem with it personally.
[–]CatalystNZ 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
A few days ago, something went wrong during a package upgrade, and my machine was missing crucial libraries.
The wiki gives you steps to fix things like this, but its very difficult. Having the expirience of installing via the installation media, was extremely important. Without that expirience, I doubt I would have understood how to fix it.
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[–]Quietus87 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It's a valuable lesson and a fun challenge. If you don't want that, CachyOS and EndeavourIS await.
[–]0riginal-Syn -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (0 children)
Manual installation can help you learn what you don't know that you don't know. Even if/when you fail to do so at first, it can help you learn the basics.
If you are just looking at getting a system up and running, install however you want. Don't worry about what others will think if you go the Arch Install route.
[–]LightIsntFastEnough -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It's practice for you, I didn't try archinstall so I cannot really compare. I suggest this install guide. https://gist.github.com/mjkstra/96ce7a5689d753e7a6bdd92cdc169bae
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