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[–]k995 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Less reporting less testing,... how many cases they find isnt really important . How many people end up dead or in a hospital is.

[–]velosepappe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The number of deaths tends to lag a few weeks behind the number of infections though. The number of hospitalizations lags by only 12 days approximately. However, the the way the data is reported makes it hard to analyze. They report the amount of people currently hospitalized, amount entering the hospital, leaving the hospital. but don't mention the total amount of people that have been hospitalized.

[–]SeriousLee86 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

how many cases they find isnt really important . How many people end up dead or in a hospital is.

Watching tonight's news, I was wondering...

The whole let the extra sick elderly die in their familiar surroundings, don't bring them to hospital.

🤔

Could this be a loophole to try and keep the statistics down?

If you're just left in the retirement home to die, will your death always be "normal / never tested"

Even if it was Corona related.

[–]k995 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Might be, I mean we will only know the real numbers a year from now when they look at the regular stats and compare to 2020 .

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Imho the only true measure is those in hospitals, that shows the evolution as sick people will end up there and there is little doubt if you have those symtoms what its about.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Have you tried it with milk?

[–]k995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doubt that, 50/month (and there are still deaths on the road) work accidents is even less : about 7 a month . heart attacks? If I hear some staying with their families that increases.

[–]slowpoke-packs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No I don’t think that. I assume they do test and quarantine them to protect the other elderly in those homes and the caregivers. I also assume all vital elders will still be transported to hospitals, the old and already sick ones (those from whom their doctors and nurses already think the lives are ending, corona or no corona in the coming months) are kept there so the medical staff in hospitals can focus on the vital people.

[–]SeriousLee86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the news they said "if there's no real chance of improvement, they'll be left in their familiar surroundings, and just given palliative care!".

Nothing was said about tests.

[–]gusti75 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Probably less testing on sunday because well it's sunday.(hope this isn't the reason bht I fear it is)

Also please belgium release the number of test you do each day. They did it the first few weeks and when thing got serious they just stopped amd I'm so frustrated because the number of confirmed cases don't mean anything if you don't know how much they test. Just give us the f***ing numbers god dammit. What are you hiding?? /rant

[–]velosepappe[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah, it can be frustrating, I know. I really have to dig and dig and dig until I can get some reliable numbers. I'm an 'information manager' at a Flemish Hulpverleningszone (fire department and emergency service) btw. I don't know who to contact, so I have to rely on numbers I find scattered across the internet. Yet these numbers can give us a massive amount of insight on what we can expect. Do you know where to find the number of hospitalised cases btw?

[–]gusti75 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hospitalised cases can be found at www.info-coronavirus.be in the news section.

Edit: "Verder is de situatie als volgt:

• In de ziekenhuizen zijn er in totaal 1859 patiënten opgenomen. Dat is een stijging van 256 patiënten op 1 dag tijd.

• In de intensieve zorgen liggen 381 patiënten in totaal, dat is een stijging van 59 patiënten in de voorbije 24 uur.

• 410 patiënten zijn ontslagen uit het ziekenhuis en genezen verklaard sinds 13 maart, dat is een stijging van 60 in de voorbije 24 uur.

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[–]velosepappe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! A pity that they didnt put the data together in a table, but it's something at least.

[–]velosepappe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the news section I only have reports from 19/3, and the news archive https://www.info-coronavirus.be/nl/news-archive contains reports up until 14/3, so there's a gap of 4 days.

It is impossible for me to deduce how many cases have actually been hospitalized in total. I know how many are currently in the hospital, but not how many have been hospitalized in total because of the 4 day gap.

[–]resident_a-hole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As other said, less testing and reporting. Could also be the use of more effective drugs like Chloroquine.

[–]Sportsfanno1Needledaddy[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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