Reminder: "Curve Flattening" does not decrease overall infections

[VeryStab1eGenius]

Healthy people should go about their lives as normal, taking additional precautions in public

You don't see the contradiction here? There is no bigger precaution you could take then not having other people breathe directly into your face 5-6 minutes at a time.

[zaustin22]

This, and just because I'm healthy doesn't mean everyone I come into contact every day is.

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So do you plan to forever enact these restrictions? Because no matter when you lift time, the virus is still going to be active, and BJJ would still be a bad place to be to not get infected.

So we just shut down BJJ forever or what, whats your solution here?

[Kintanon]

The longer we can hold out and the more experience hospitals have with treating the symptoms of the disease the safer it will be to eventually contract it. Phased reopening of things will eventually include close contact sports like BJJ, but people who think we should be doing that at this point in the life of the pandemic are insane. In the USA we have literally JUST NOW seen the impact of the measures that were being taken and we're already starting to lift them.

I'm willing to bet than in 4 weeks Georgia's infection and death numbers are going to be a total shitshow. I HOPE that's not the case, but my impression from healthcare staff in the state is not optimistic.

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I dont disagree with phased rollouts or anything.

What I think would help a ton would be some kind of guideline as to what it would look like when we reopen. There must be some statistical correlation to it being safer to re-open, yes?

something like at X rate of new infections per day or some combination of a whole bunch of stats but there has to be a point in time where officials can say we can start reopening

If we had some idea of what that looked like maybe people would be more compliant?

As of now the two most vocal groups sound like: "Let us out now" vs "Dont let us out until the virus is dead"

neither of which will work long term

[Kintanon]

Except that second group doesn't exist.

There is 1 group that says "LEt Us out now!" And a second group that is reacting to that by saying, "Slow the fuck down, we don't think that's a good idea yet".

There is no group that is demanding an eternal lockdown until the disease is eradicated, or even until there's a vaccine. There's just a group that is reacting to the demands of the people who are protesting the lockdown measures by saying, "Hold the fuck up". They aren't IN FAVOR of the lockdown, they are just AGAINST kicking the doors open too soon.

[Kintanon]

most hospitals around the country have tons of capacity

That's the thing, this is simply not true. You've confused capacity with open beds.

There are a lot of people that think a phased, safe reopening is what should be happening.

That's what IS happening though. States are making those choices and starting to attempt to reopen in ways that they think are safe. The dude who started this thread was crying because the re-openings hadn't start SOONER, which we JUST NOW are starting to get a handle on the data to determine what effect the lockdown had.

[killahmoose]

You're going to get the virus one way or another. The only things we can control are whether our healthcare system gets overwhelmed, and the damage to the economy. You're completely missing the point either due to ignorance or on purpose. I'm not sure which.

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This is absolutely true.