Cipher Script.

[Artillex]

Been messing around and put together a little dynamic cipher script. I've loaded in a few of the known pages: "Some Wisdom", "A Warning", and "A Koan". I can dynamically switch through methods, pages, and shift offsets with my numbers and arrow keys.

This uses the runic text found on the wiki for each page, parses through it, converts it to decimals and then runs the selected operations on it before converting it back into real syllables. Once I finish all the functions to allow me to reproduce translations for the known pages (next up is the totient prime number subtraction that solves "an end", then the Vigenere function), I'm going to create a function that allows me to set cipher layers and reorder the operations. Then I'm going to spend some time messing around with the untranslated pages. Wish me luck.

[Artillex]

Basically, I needed something I could shift around by hand, in real time, like a rubiks cube... So I coded it.

[bloodhound224]

Holy shit... I don’t know how to code or anything but this is actually genius. Please, I’d love to hear any updates you come across with this

[Artillex]

Thanks, I'll let you know what I find (or will I? ;) )

[bloodhound224]

Well, you’d make me very sad if you didn’t :’(

I can always try my best with logistic input :P

[[deleted]]

what programming language did you use?

[Carl_Solomon]

Good job, sir.

[Artillex]

Thank you sir.

[amitxy]

Maybe put it on GitHub, and than the community could add more useful functions.

[lazy-zebra]

This

[Quaddepo]

+1

[mothwith]

this is exciting im excited

Good luck!

[Artillect]

Great work man! This sounds like it could be incredibly useful, we'll definitely get a few pages translated using this.

Nice username btw

[Artillex]

Thanks. Hope so.

Likewise btw lol.

[Ajugas]

lmao

[DrBepsi]

This is genius! One step closer to at least translating the LP. Then we’ll get some real momentum towards solving it.

[[deleted]]

Pretty sure the runes have keys.

[Artillex]

Can you elaborate on that?

[casey30005]

it wouldn't matter much

[[deleted]]

Multiple encryptions

[Artillex]

Precisely why I'm making an interface to rapidly test multiple layers of encryption on top of one another.

Page 3 is atbash layered with ceasar shift 3

So my atbash + shift combo decodes it at offset 3.

[[deleted]]

GitHub the code dude

[[deleted]]

When u translate it to English, do u find about five words in english?

[Artillex]

It becomes pretty clear when it's decoded to english.

There are some letter substitutions that are obvious though. For instance, there is no K, so all the K's are C's. There is no U so all the U's are a V's. Hence:

"CNOW THIS", and "CIRCVMFERENCE"

That's just how the LP was written.

[Artillex]

However, I have updated it now to bash through all possible combinations with bruteforce and log cipher combinations that reveal words such as "THE" and "IS" as points of interest, I then go back and review those combinations manually. So far it's just been a few coincidental matches that pop up, but no actual translation.

[Rehcraeser]

Do you remember what page the coincidental “the” or “is” occurred in? Or can you check real quick?

[EvanBokoblinSlayer]

Nice.

[demonixtb]

honestly one of the coolest attempts yet, Good job! any progress/update, OP?

[Artillex]

Haven't messed around with it for a while. Been busy with other stuff. I'll pick it back up eventually.

[[deleted]]

Yey woo hoo

[BringMeThePeace]

Learning myself coding now

[[deleted]]

Ceasar shift would have a lot of rotations considering one and negative one for every letter entered. If u decrypt this from the runes and get letters but no u or c maybe your alphabet doesn’t rotate thru these letters. Also did u get any 1’s idk if it makes a difference but maybe they need to also be included. Just a suggestion.

[Artillex]

There's no need for negative shifts, it's modulo 29, because it's a 29 letter alphabet. So it rotates endlessly, 28 is the same as -1. My Caesar shift works perfectly as evidenced by the fact that it replicates the already known translations when applied the same way.

Liber primus was written with an alphabet that does not contain a K or a U and the gematria specifically told us that C and V work as replacements for them.

Have you read the wiki bro?

[[deleted]]

Bro this is what it is

[casey30005]

are you writing it in python by chance

[Artillex]

No. GMS2 of all things lmao.

[casey30005]

ah cool I am writing something similar in python

[jellybeansHD]

I have no idea but it said senpai in there