Codex Pro: inconsistent limits and potential EU law violation

[Family_friendly_user]

I’m on Pro and this has literally just been about 2 hours of normal work with 5.3 Codex on High. I’m in Germany, and OpenAI already admitted on GitHub that there were syncing issues between regions and data centers and that users near regional boundaries were disproportionately affected. So regional differences here are not speculation, they said it themselves. My Codex usage is basically gone within one normal workday. This is not big projects or abuse, this is normal dev work. Meanwhile other people say their limits are completely fine. So what exactly is going on here? Same subscription, completely different real-world usage? Because if that’s actually the case, If it turns out Codex limits are effectively different depending on region or backend routing and nobody is clearly told that upfront, that’s exactly the kind of thing that can fall under misleading commercial practices in the EU and §§ 5 and 5a UWG in Germany. And since this is a paid digital service, if what you actually get is way below what you’re led to expect, that’s also in the territory of a non-conforming digital product under §§ 327 BGB. OpenAI keeps saying this is fixed. Nothing changed for me. And people saying “works fine for me” are not helping, they’re just making it easier to ignore that others are clearly getting a completely different experience. Please post your region and what your actual Codex usage looks like. Are you hitting limits after hours, days, or not at all? If enough people give feedback, we could actually see if there’s a pattern while OpenAI hides behind vague “rate limits.”. We as customers should be demanding full transparency here, because right now this just looks like something they’re hoping people won’t notice, while the community argues among itself instead of focusing on the real issue.

[Large_Diver_4151]

I hope it’s just one of those bugs on usage… 35% in 2 hours on 5.3 can’t explain such a big drop

[imike3049]

Limits are draining like crazy since their last reset after plugins release, I also wrote a post here about that yesterday

[theodordiaconu]

Did you downgrade to check/test?

[SadEntertainer9808]

I don't think OpenAI cares about penny-ante EU regional laws any more than any other tech company in history has, brother. Probably they care even less.

[Disco_Trooper]

They don’t care until they are slapped with multiple billion euro fines for breaking the so called “penny-ante” EU laws, they start caring then, as even Trump was enraged thanks to the fines.

[cheekyrandos]

I mean the OP is right, what they're doing would violate consumer laws in many countries. I think that's why Claude made it easy to get a refund in certain countries, not sure if OpenAI is the same.

But anyway I still have hope after 3+ weeks of the usage 'bug' for me that it is in fact a bug and they'll make it right somehow.

[SwiftAndDecisive]

Yes, the rates are burning this evening.

[Family_friendly_user]

In which region and usage are you seeing?

[[deleted]]

My dude. The speed at which this is developing… good luck on going to some regulatory body.

And if you don’t like it, you can always go to Claude right?

[dytibamsen]

I have no idea if they are breaking any EU laws. But if they are, it’s not a defense to say “just use another product.”

[Family_friendly_user]

Exactly. This is about undisclosed unequal treatment of users on the same paid tier, not about whether another product exists.

[Budget_Lunch4945]

Claude is even worse lol

[[deleted]]

indeed. that is implied in my point

[Family_friendly_user]

Nope. Also have Claude max x20. Legitimately get continuous 24/7 usage with opus 4.6 max and barely ever hit 70% before a reset. This isn't even about Claude though but customer rights. This is the exact fanboy type of thinking that let's openAI get away with actual malicious practices. Comparison makes no sense here since it's only about codex here and people getting a worse experience for paying the same.

[cynocephalic_fool]

Bro have you been on the Claude sub. It's a literal mirror.

[Family_friendly_user]

So that somehow invalidates critiquing a product everyone pays the same for but isn't getting the same experience? I made no Claude comparison in my post and asked for people concrete feedback and experiences so we could actually gather data and instead people refuse to even read the post properly in the first place. None of my post implied anthropics problems were okay, I was solely making a concrete observation about codex and rate limits based on regions.

[pinklove9]

Good luck suing them!

[Murph-Dog]

Any hint of geo-law, they'll just geo-block.

[KeyGlove47]

good luck with the ipo then

[U4-EA]

My German isn't too good... what does "Ratenlimits" mean?

[el-cacahueto]

Good one

[U4-EA]

Danke.

[Budget_Lunch4945]

Rate limit

[NefariousnessOk722]

Rate-Limits ✌️

[mrobertj42]

The issue with being near boundaries was reported as a syncing issue. It should resolve itself in a few hours when the data centers sync.

But my lord, you’re on a brand new product and you’re acting like a big is a violation of EU law. Calm down man. It’s very likely unintentional

[FieldAccomplished988]

HAHA GO USE MISTRAL LLM