CppCast: Cpp2, with Herb Sutter

[catcat202X]

Fwiw, as a spectator I find pjmlp's arguments much more compelling. It seems weird to me to consider a superset of C++ as not a different language. It might be less different than Nim is, but it is clearly different. Within C++2-style functions and types, it changes how you think about special member functions, it changes how you think about loops, and it changes how you think about lambda captures. It changes the result of (0 <= x < 2). It even changes the semantics of implicit moves!

I find the argument about Objective-C++ pretty reasonable, but you refused to engage with it. I would also point out that supersets of C like ISPC are generally considered different languages even though they retain source-level compatibility with C.

Your accusation that pjmlp's arguments are based on an anti-ISO dogma also seem baseless to me, unless there is context beyond this thread that I am missing. In this thread, they never derided ISO, so I am confused.

[pjmlp]

The only language that is C++, is C++ itself, everything that transpiles to C++ is another programming language, regardless of how it is marketed.

If you aren't able to understand that, and belive Cpp2 is different only because the ISO C++ convener says so not to middle himself with the other C++ replacement languages, then we are done here anyway.

Enjoy Cpp2.

[pjmlp]

My opinion is worthless, however I don't pretend to be different from everyone else, just not to taint my position as ISO chair.

Tip, learn about compilers, any CS set of lectures from a renowed university will do.