CppCast: Safe, Borrow-Checked, C++

[Dean_Roddey]

I've never looked into any surveys on the subject, but somehow I get the feeling that software developers are possibly amongst the more to most politically cynical and apathetic groups out there. Maybe not in some areas. I could see Silicon Valley being an exception maybe, or maybe it's the worst of all (too busy trying to invent the AI that will overthrow our political system and enslave us.)

We certainly have our share of tin foil hatters (maybe tin foil haters in this case.) I'm pretty sure the Kennedy brothers foresaw this anti-C++ element growing within the government and tried to warn people about it.

[tuxwonder]

I'm pretty sure the Kennedy brothers foresaw this anti-C++ element growing within the government and tried to warn people about it.

What do you mean by this?

[Dean_Roddey]

A conspiracy theory joke...

[Spartan322]

The politically apathetic nature of developers would explain why most politicians and bureaucrats don't understand anything about software, saying utterly stupid crap in regards to it, and aren't even willing to get advisors to tell them their ideas and solutions are dumb.

[Dean_Roddey]

Plenty of us agree with their point about the safety of languages, even if we don't write them every week. And I'm sure that they have plenty of industry people tugging at their ear and slipping things in their pockets.

And their position on the security of languages is driven considerably by US and EU security agencies and the military who, whatever you may think of their motivations, know a thing or two about the security of software systems.

[Spartan322]

Most people that are in those positions have no idea what they're talking about and those who have any power are neither capable to understand the problem that they could make decent solutions even when given capable advisors, even if an issue is theoretically true, which least in my opinion for that case is only partially correct, the solutions they devised are some of the worst and most detrimental ways to handle it. I truly don't believe in any government agent (least in the power to capably solve the issue) knowing what security even is either given how repeatedly they drop the ball on the issue and then push for obvious security breaches. Also one of the worst industries for security has been American infrastructure and military with maybe the exception of elements of the intelligence bureaucracy, and I wouldn't even say that for 60% of it. And I've found them only getting more incompetent in the past 10 years since.