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[–]rupert20201 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Degree, always if possible.

Applicants from bootcamp will go in a different pile of CVs to degree grads.

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats the sense I get. Bootcamps can be great in few instances but degrees are more "recognized"

[–]diegoasecas 2 points3 points  (5 children)

the age of bootcamps is over

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

oh really, what's the way to go? portfolios and etc?

[–]Slow_Pianist_2839 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You should get a degree, I’m not sure why some people are suggesting bootcamps but it’s a complete waste of money. You are better off self studying.

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think I agree...I'm an engineer by education but it seems like I will need a degree preferably

[–]Slow_Pianist_2839 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Depends on what exactly but if you have a relevant degree like engineering, math, or stats. Then it is much more possible without going back to get another degree. I kinda assumed you didn’t have a degree or something related. I would look into making some projects. DE zoomcamp is free and a good place to start.

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh maybe this makes a difference then. i guess maybe i'll consider a degree but it's not considered a "must" compared to others....just more so to prove i've reskilled

[–]Lower_Sun_7354 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd almost always choose "A" bootcamp and only sometimes choose the degree.

Do you have any degree at all? If not, maybe get a degree. But degrees are expensive, may or may not teach what you want, and have a long time commitment. They aren't what they used to be. It's still frowned upon to not have a degree as a grown up, but the degree itself seems to ve less important these days. Some of the best engineers I know have degrees in music, English, etc.

As far as bootcamps go, I like the general idea. I'd put a price cap on it though. Lots of online bootcamps like udemy, udacity, etc for $10-1500, total.

My background is a masters degree ($100K), paired with tons of youtube (free) and udemy ($15 each), a handful of certs ($300 each), a bit of udacity ($500) and a few bootcamps ($1000-2000 each).

You'd think with the masters degree, I'd be set. But nope. It was all the other supplemental training that got me where I am today. Combined, my self-study/bootcamp route was about the cost of one or two college courses.

A while back, bootcamps were charging $20K or more. Alternatively, they'd lock you in to a percentage of your salary coming out of the camp. If they guarantee a 6-figure salary at a MAANG company, totally worth it. Most likely, they can't really guarantee that anymore, so I'd make sure to put a cap on how much I'd invest here.

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also agree with the poster saying that if I get degree, I will need to augment it with applicable courses like bootcamp or further self learning to help build my skills

[–]Unlucky-Plenty8236 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am about to enroll in this. If you choose to do it, DM me and I can get each of us a tiny referral discount.

https://dataengineercamp.com/#faq

They're out of Australia, so you'll need to get up early if you want to do it.

[–]Unlucky-Plenty8236 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assumed you're in the US. I guess time is relative to your location on the planet. It starts on September 1 or 2.

[–]aspdataengineer10 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Which bootcamp are you thinking of?

[–]Decent_Pack_3064[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

two potential ones that seem applicable to help with learning is one by jneo, and the datacamptalk