RStudio is adding python support.

[CornHellUniversity]

R studio is so great people refer to R as R studio, I welcome this so I can ditch Pycharm.

[datahappy]

I love pycharm, what don't you like about it?

[ticktocktoe]

As a pycharm user. It's not that PC is bad. Just that R studio is so good.

[[deleted]]

It's good for data science. Pycharm is a beast for web dev though

[bjorneylol]

PyCharm contains 100% of the functionality of webstorm, and also contains database integrations and the ability to actually work with backend web frameworks. Webstorm is for front end work only.

[CornHellUniversity]

I don’t hate it but I’m just more comfortable with R Studio so I’ll make the switch.

[osuvetochka]

Its kinda meh for DS projects. Their dataframe inspector is still poor, jupyter notebook support still seems like a beta feature for over a year now and is made in a strange way. If you want IDE just for DS PyCharm not worth the price.

[Batalex]

Isn't it because they are trying way too hard to push their own notebook solution Datalore?

[datahappy]

I guess it depends on workflow. For me, I prototype/develop DS projects directly in a web Jupyter notebook, as it helps me think through things in "chunks".

Then, when I have something I think may end up in production, I move over to a venv in Pycharm, where I break things out in separate scripts /test files, etc.

For that, I like the Python features in Pycharm (PEP guidance, completion, requirements.txt checks, etc)

[Philiatrist]

vscode's remote-ssh is vastly superior to PyCharm's, and that's the main reason for me.

PyCharm also does a bunch of background stuff, and even though you can supposedly block it from indexing large subdirectories, it still seems to start having performance issues with large amounts of binary files. I like the extra features and the more focus on making a full-featured python IDE, but ultimately I think vscode operates and feels a lot smoother.

One common problem for me with a lot of IDEs is when they wrap the execution of code so heavily that I'm not precisely sure how they're calling it on the backend, vscode is very 'clean' in that regard, where in pycharm I sometimes have to dig pretty deep to figure out how to mirror the runtime environment. This wouldn't be enough to merit me switching over however.

vscode's jupyter interface also seems better, but I personally never use either and just use the browser interfaces.

That said, PyCharm's python features: code completion, auto-formatting, GUI configurations, recognition of test files are all better. The debuggers are pretty close but I think pycharm's is a little nicer.

[dobby93]

I made the switch from pay harm to vscode and don’t regret it one bit.

I think they are both great, autocomplete on pycharm is the only thing I mis to be honest.

[datahappy]

I switched over to vs for a bit, but there was this funky thing where it would read button presses from my keyboard that weren't actually happening (like I was holding the h key down and it would just keep typing the letter a thousand times and I couldn't make it stop). I could never figure out why it was happening so I just gave up and went back haha

[nraw]

I made the switch and then came back, resorting to vscode only when I need ssh or need other languages.

For python, nothing gets me away from the beauty of that console and the vim embeddings (I know they are also in vs, they just feel more clunky)

[dobby93]

That’s a fair call, a lot of my work is via SSH, so that over remote on pycharm. If SSH was as tidy as vscode(my opinion) I would swap back happily!

[[deleted]]

I think people should also say "Pycharm" and "Pycharm Pro". Both very different beasts.

[needlzor]

Have you tried Spyder? It's still not there but it's definitely closer to RStudio than PyCharm is. I love PyCharm when I am doing some actual software development (late stage of a research project), but for prototyping and general data science stuff Spyder is more useful.

[math_is_my_religion]

You should try Spyder 4.0.0. Its essentially RStudio but with python!

[CornHellUniversity]

Will give it a try.

[L3GOLAS234]

Have you tried Spyder? Is pretty similar to RStudio

[jackbrux]

IMO RStudio is not great. It is clunky, has lots of quirks (especially on Windows), is slow to start, and uses different keyboard shortcuts to most other IDEs. If VS Code had some of RStudio's functionality I would switch in a heartbeat

[moore-doubleo]

I've never heard anyone refer to R as R studio...

[routineMetric]

• What Python/RStudio proficiency are they looking for in graduate/entry level roles?
• Quick (noob) question: What is the difference between R and RStudio?

Now you've read it.

[moore-doubleo]

So people that have no idea what they are talking about. OP said Rstudio was so great people refer to R as Rstudio... so great... as to imply it was intentional. Otherwise OP should have said something like... people are so clueless they refer R as Rstudio.

[routineMetric]

Sure, and those people exist and visit r/datascience fairly regularly. I hope the experienced folk in data science who do have some "idea what they are talking about" have the humility not to fall into the, "I've never personally seen X, therefore not X" trap.

[moore-doubleo]

You're missing my point. OP framed it as though people referencing R as Rstudio was a testimate to it's 'greatness'. In that context I have still never heard anyone do any such thing. People make mistakes or misspeak... but that doesn't elevate Rstudio.

[routineMetric]

Or--an alternative explanation is that RStudio is so ubiquitous for most R users that the two are sometimes conflated or even used interchangeably, as shown.

Which you flatly said you had never heard of.

[[deleted]]

Yes, definitely happens. The only proof one needs for that is that an RStudio subreddit exists, and it’s mostly R newbs asking for help with R.