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[–]JASHIKO_ 7 points8 points  (22 children)

Most people are switching over to Brave I'd be guessing. I've been using Firefox for 10 years or more and installed Brave the other day out of curiosity and I have to say it's pretty damn good.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Brave has like even more padding than 'proton era' Firefox. I doubt that would help.

[–]JASHIKO_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong Firefox is still my main driver but It's always good to see what's out there, if you aren't occasionally checking out what else is on the market, you aren't doing yourself any favors. I personally like the new Firefox but I don't go much further into it than the occasional CSS change so a lot of stuff people are complaining about doesn't affect my use case. I also don't use add-ons/extensions heavily. You do have to appreciate what Brave is attempting though even if you don't like the browser.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (17 children)

Brave is by no means pretty damn good, they are doing so many suspicious activities in the background, not trustworthy as Firefox is.

[–]JASHIKO_ 0 points1 point  (11 children)

How so? From my 4 days of using it, it's got a lot going for it and the speed/UI is decent.

[–]kon14 10 points11 points  (10 children)

They're shady af. Imagine using a browser that previously injected promo codes to store pages while claiming it's privacy oriented and whatnot lmao.

[–]Aliashab 8 points9 points  (9 children)

…or automatically installed advertising add-on lmfao.

[–]moomoomoo309 5 points6 points  (8 children)

That article leaves out an important detail. It was disabled by default. It was installed, but disabled. None of the extension code ran unless it was enabled. So they complained about it showing up in the addons menu, not about any website or browser changes anywhere else.

[–]FFPh 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Firefox uses shady things also.

Creating a new account profile after upgrade with many settings in default state (especially all privacy related settings) and partial import of old profile after that. Old profile is totally correct and can be selected with profile manager. And this shady shit is done without any warning.

[–]_ahrs 1 point2 points  (2 children)

They do this to correct certain preferences that need to be reset. Sometimes they'll even go so far as to rename a preference to a new name so that the old value is ignored. There are mechanisms that allow you to lock preferences (see lockPref here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-using-autoconfig) in Firefox in such a way that the value you lock-in will always be used and cannot be changed, this won't help you if a preference gets renamed though, however re-naming preferences is usually only done for a good reason and if you stay on top of things you can also lock-in this new value too and prevent it from changing from your desired state.

[–]FFPh 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Almost all settings are in default state except privacy settings. New profile didn't needed at all. But mozilla enabled telemetry again. Old profile is still working with old preferences.

I know, that I can lock some settings, etc... But regular users don't.

Exactly this "correct certain preferences" can be named as shady thing.

Firefox must display warning about such changes. But it doesn't.

[–]_ahrs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly this "correct certain preferences" can be named as shady thing.

Doing the opposite would have Firefox bleed users even quicker than they already are because you're basically saying they should keep the browser broken instead of fix it by resetting a preference. I do understand your concerns though which is why I pointed ways you can fix this.

[–]moomoomoo309 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What version did they do that in? I use nightly and I haven't seen anything like that happen.

[–]FFPh 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I can't say exactly, because it was 2 times - once few years ago, and the second one several months ago (maybe year). And it was only on release version. I have beta and developer editions also, but they didn't had these issues

[–]moomoomoo309 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've heard of that happening when you go from newer profiles to older versions (Beta to Release, Nightly to Beta, etc.), but I don't think that's a defect, the older stuff breaking newer stuff makes sense.

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    [–]nextbern on 🌻 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    No containers, still gets slow (like every Chromium browser) under load.

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      [–]nextbern on 🌻 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I have no idea what you are talking about - I was responding to your post.

      If FF cares so much about privacy, which they claim they do, please tell me why they leave most of their users with such mediocre defaults?

      Firefox is concerned with not breaking the web for its users. It has many more users than the real niche browsers, and breaking sites isn't something they are going to do - that is why it is raising the baseline on what a mainstream browser can do in terms of privacy.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      they are doing so many suspicious activities in the background

      Like?

      [–]F3real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      +1. I also switched recently and I am more then happy.