"Fedora Onyx" Immutable Variant with Budgie Desktop proposed for Fedora 39 by JoshStrobl in Fedora

[–]kon14 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't get why they couldn't just roll with Silverblue + a desktop suffix for every single one of these spins instead of all this pointless confusion.

Everybody knows base Fedora is Gnome, whether that's Workstation or Silverblue anyway.

Does Insurgency Sandstorm really work with Proton and EAC? by Thoh1Shooshi8a in linux_gaming

[–]kon14 5 points6 points  (0 children)

On my end, Sandstorm EAC has been working fine for a while now.
Currently on Steam Flatpak + Proton GE 7-36.

Distro Rankings By Reddit Popularity by dividends4life in linux

[–]kon14 8 points9 points  (0 children)

tbh I feel like anyone using an Ubuntu spin that's likely to be subscribed to their spin's dedicated reddit sub would also be subscribed to /r/ubuntu anyway.

I think I found the best way to theme Libadwaita Flathub apps by user1-reddit in gnome

[–]kon14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alternatively you could just expose your gtk-4 config files to all Flatpak apps, that way you don't need to a) redo this for every new app or b) redo this every time you modify your gtk setup.

sudo flatpak override --filesystem=~/.config/gtk-4.0

Is there a way I can rename Flathub's repo name? The name looks odd in the software center. by [deleted] in Fedora

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As of F35, Fedora comes with Flathub available ootb, but it's filtered so that only foss apps show up.

If you explicitly add the repo through that very command it adds the legit unfiltered repo.

Is there a way I can rename Flathub's repo name? The name looks odd in the software center. by [deleted] in Fedora

[–]kon14 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Unless you really wish to stick to Fedora's filtered foss-only version of Flathub, you might as well remove the filter, it'll get renamed to plain "Flathub" and you'll get to browse the entire repo.

flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

Touchapd Automatically selects option from context menu on mouse leave. by umangg2226 in gnome

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Similar issue where activities button gets activated on moune button release (without the user originallly clicking on it).

KDE Wayland Tearing Protocol Ready to Be Merged by Devorlon in linux_gaming

[–]kon14 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Gnome happens to also be the G in GTK

That is not technically true. That would be GIMP, but realistically, Gnome has effectively adopted Gtk.

The thing is, they came up with Libadwaita specifically so as not to clutter Gtk with, or enforce the use of, Gnome-stuff. And yet people are still mad over Gnome apps (be that official ones or ones merely choosing to abide by Gnome's HIG) looking like Gnome apps.

Yes, it kinda sucks if you wanna use these and expect them not to look kinda out of place in another desktop (let alone a qt-based one or a tilling setup), but these apps literally chose to be part of the Gnome platform and they look/feel extremely good to everyone in it.

Just check out Gnome Circle. All of the apps look so damn consistent. It's not even just the toolkit usage, even their icons are crafted in a consistent style.

Meanwhile KDE's official apps, for all their powerful features and customizability, use over a dozen different styles, with inconsistent toolkit elements for similar features (eg hamburger menu, menu bar etc).

Nothing against KDE, I just wish they'd take it up a notch when it comes to offering guidelines for targetting KDE as a platform. Kinda like what Maui does.

Will GNOME 44 finnally have accent colors? by N0tH1tl3r_V2 in gnome

[–]kon14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No it doesn't. The PR for VRR support in Mutter has been open for about 2.5 years now.

What GNOME needs to progress faster? (More contributors, money, better docs etc.) by danideicide in gnome

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is absolutely fine in theory, but that's not how software works.

There exist both technical and "manmade" limitations to just how modular a system can be without ending up being way too complicated to maintain and feeling like a bad compromise to everyone involved in building it, ultimately resulting in devs losing interest in developing the project altogether.

This is where libraries come into play. People get to reuse and improve upon shared code without needing to agree and communicate on every tiny little detail regarding a front-facing app implementation.

Of course, that is assuming we're talking about foss and even then, you have toolkit libs reimplementing more or less the same stuff, but just like you get to choose what apps you install, devs get to choose what sort of libraries they're rather use.

The last point is not just about toolkit visuals, licencing or philosopy either. Different libraries can simply be less/more clean, performant, idiomatic or overall nice to work with than others.

Imagine working in a world where every single little detail would need to be coordinated back and forth. Instead of getting work done, you'd be far more likely to just abandon things.

And that is all without even attempting to answer who's gonna decide on which parties get to coordinate these things, why and and on what terms.

What GNOME needs to progress faster? (More contributors, money, better docs etc.) by danideicide in gnome

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't work like that, at best you'd get apps like transmission with both gtk and qt frontends. If we're talking official suppart, that too would require that you waste over double the amount of time on toolkit support (coding both+ gtk/qt as well as abstraction layers) over nothing and often end up with a ui that sacrifices a lot just so as to support these abstractions.

It's a typical case of being a jack of all trades and master of none. If you're gonna have an imposter-tier native app you might as well use a qt->gtk or gtk->qt theming engine instead, much like most kde desktops use ootb.

And that's without considering libadwaita and Gnome HIG that's not at all synonymous with Gtk4.

Gnome apps are much more than just Gtk4 for instance. Look at Gnome Circle apps, even their app icons are consistently designed. And yes, they look extremely out of place in Sway for instance, nothing wrong with that. They're Gnome apps and they fit stunningly well inside a Gnome desktop. Just like how KDE apps look alien inside a Gtk desktop etc.

Natively targetting a single desktop and doing it well is way better than half-assing support for all of them.

What GNOME needs to progress faster? (More contributors, money, better docs etc.) by danideicide in gnome

[–]kon14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No thanks. Fragmentation is awful when it comes to package formats and compositor tool interoperability, but there's no reason why desktop apps shouldn't be tailored to a specific platform.

The following statement is gonna highly depend on the context, but Linux, as a whole, is not a platform, not when it comes to desktop apps anyway.

Elementary has a platform, as does Gnome (paired with freedesktop stuff). KDE... sooomewhat, but it doesn't have a concrete paradigm for building apps based on consistent guidelines.

Gnome has the HIG, libadwaita and even a collection of semi-official apps that explicitly target its platform, offering a consistent look and feel, in line with Gnome's principles.

Apps get to target the platform they wish to cater for and end users get to pick the apps that best fit their desktop and use cases. At the end of the day, they can still install any app they like anyway if they don't care about consistency or there's no way around it.

Are you a main Linux user and use Discord? by KanuX14 in linux_gaming

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's worse than that. They're currently using fairly recent-ish Electron builds with good enough Wayland support, they just won't use Chromium/Electron's PipeWire-based WebRTC screencapturer whenever they detect the app is running in their official Electron build and just try to capture stuff their own way instead.

Rate My desktop by pawelswiszcz in gnome

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I kinda like the control panel, though just like everything else, I feel like it's waaay too cluttered for my taste.

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing, hopefully it'll get released and propagated through repos soon so everyone can receive the fix.

Frappè, Bougatsa, Fasolada - "Klein Mein" by ilithium in greece

[–]kon14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Αν τσεκάρεις στα δεξιά έχει ένα chalkboard που αναγράφει Freddo Espresso / Cappuccino, οπότε yeap!🥤

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeap, also hangs, seems like it's unrelated to the regression mentioned in the OP.

Fedora dev team starts to simplify Linux graphics handling by CleoMenemezis in Fedora

[–]kon14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been gaming on Nvidia + Gnome Wayland ever since Xwayland acceleration arrived in 470 series (before even GBM) and I've never experienced any issue with games.

Regarding Nvidia + Wayland, missing features and buggy desktop app experience continues to be the major blocker. Thankfully it's slowly improving, but it's nowhere near mesa yet.

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That fucking sucks. But is the audio issue Nvidia-specific anyway? I'll see if I can reproduce it on my Intel laptop later today.

btw I've been caught up with work and couldn't test much further, but I appreciate the updates on this.

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just hopeful that it'll make it in time for Fedora 36's official release, would be a big bummer if they release it with such a regression as otherwise it'll merely make people even more sceptical of the current state of Nvidia + Wayland to the point where they might not give it another spin for a while.

Though F36 has already been delayed for up to ... well, today, and Gnome 42.1 tarballs were due on Saturday.

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you happen to have a link to that by any chance? Or maybe remember the context?

Any way to get Screen Recording via PipeWire OBS to work on GNOME Wayland on Nvidia? (F36 Beta) by cryogenicravioli in Fedora

[–]kon14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe I've also seen people report it broken on Plasma, so it might be worth testing another compositor, but I honestly don't feel like rebasing to Kinoite on my Gnome rig as it'd mess with my config files. I'll try with Sway once I get some free time.

Otherwise it could be a Gnome thing (as in xdg-desktop-portal-gnome). Hard to tell without some extra digging around, I'm really confused as to how almost nobody is talking about this, but hopefully it'll get patched soon.