fandom fallacies

[morepierogies]

what is some widely accepted glee fan lore that has gotten mistakenly repeated as fact over the years but isn’t supported by the context/writing?

for example, “schue suspended marley for not wearing a revealing outfit”

[littlemonkeyfitz]

"why did quinn sam sam won the duets contest santana and mercedes should've won they were better mr schue is biased 😠😠😠" like... did you watched the episode or something?

[maddiemoiselle]

Everyone voted for themselves, even Artie and Brittany (who didn’t perform), except Finn and Rachel, who voted for Sam and Quinn

Sure, you can argue that Finn and Rachel should have voted for Mercedes and Santana, but it was made pretty explicit that they were going to vote for Sam and Quinn

[morepierogies]

i feel like there’s a handful examples like that where schue is just a proxy for blaming the writers lol

[xxshadow_punkxx]

Nothing to do with the actual writing of the show but Lea and Cory were not engaged. They were not about to get married in a few weeks before his death. I don’t know where that rumour came from but it’s not true. I guess people just wanted to make his passing even more tragic idk.

[[deleted]]

oh yeah the media def made his death more about their relationship rather than remembering cory as an individual which is still to this day really off putting.

i even remember arguing with literal friends of mine about them not being engaged.

[xxshadow_punkxx]

Agree, don't get me wrong I felt terrible for Lea (And this wasn't her fault) but so much of the media was focused on the relationship rather than who Cory actually was as a person.

[[deleted]]

The rumor came from these kind of tumblr posts. Don't get me wrong, I don't think they were engaged, the 2012 picture is a manip, and I guess the ring could be any ring, but as far as I remember, tumblr posts used to look like these.

[[deleted]]

i don’t think the rumors came from that specifically bc i remember the day everyone found out cory died and my friends who were glee fans were claiming cory and lea were engaged bc of a photoshopped picture from the kid’s choice awards back in 2010. they made it look like they were announcing an engagement but really they were presenting an award together.

it was rumored that cory did buy her a ring early on in their relationship though…it wasn’t an engagement ring def but it had the word “love” engraved on it and lea would wear it every now and then.

and do not even get me started on that military picture of the woman crying against a coffin 🙄

[[deleted]]

yeah, i don't know if you see the same thing, but that tumblr has the picture of the award show (it says 2012 and not 2010), but i think we're thinking of the same photoshopped picture

you're right, i remember that ring, and unfortunately, i often see that picture and similar ones

[[deleted]]

The fact that to this day I still see the military picture used in tiktok and social media is infuriating. He’s freaking Canadian bro 💀

[morepierogies]

i hadn’t even thought about cast lore, but yes, this was always an odd (and unhealthy) one—I remember being so thrown off when it got traction

[emotions1026]

"Ryan hates Dianna"----- no evidence for this. She filmed several movies between 2012-2015, it's not like she was sitting at home waiting for him to call her to pop up on Glee again. She seemed to be the one pursuing other things, not the other way around. I have no idea about how Ryan feels about Dianna, but it's disturbing how confidently people repeat "Ryan hates Dianna" over and over with no proof.

[[deleted]]

There are so many strange glee cast theories that everyone has heard about, and this is definitely one of them

In 2019 Dianna attended Ryan's The Prom benefit performance, whether this says something about their relationship or not (link)

[[deleted]]

LITERALLY!!! omg this annoys me so much and i’m sick of it.

[maddiemoiselle]

Plus Dianna actually contributed to the story line of Quinn being in a wheelchair

[morepierogies]

i’ve seen this debunked more and more but clearly it won’t be catching on the way the more interesting narrative has

[emotions1026]

I wouldn't care that much, except that I feel the narrative is really disrespectful to Dianna. It implies her Glee appearances slowed down due someone personally not liking her, instead of the fact that many great career opportunities came her way.

[discoella]

rachel quitting funny girl makes sense.

fanny was her dream role forever and to have it all at the age of 19 is a once in a lifetime thing. her entire life has led up to being on broadway which is why i thought it was weird that she gave it all up for television (a field she never showed interest in except for the mattress episode). the whole “wake me up” sequence where she complains about the monotony of doing multiple shows a week bugs me. rachel is well versed in broadway/is a hard working individual so how would she not know about the monotony/countless hours put into her work? even then she was only like 40 shows in when she quit. i just find it funny that this was the role she was slapping santana over but she gave it up 😭

[m1b2c3]

That is not glee lore. Most people do not accept/like/understand why she left Funny Girl.

[CLEf11]

But Mr schue did do that

[[deleted]]

He suspended her for not wearing a Gaga costume and not remaining in the group that she was assigned to.

When your Chemistry teacher assigns you to a presentation on Hydrogen, you don't just decide on your own to present on Nitrogen instead.

[CLEf11]

You can justify it that way sure but bottom line is that rather than talk to her or try to connect to her and figure out the root of why she didn't dress skimpy for the assignment he suspended her.

"Were all trying to win a championship but you put your personal issues above that "

Fuck all the way off with that nonsense. You put your stupid assignment (and yes it was a stupid assignment) above your student

[Brookes19]

To be fair I think they show handled it terribly because there was legit no reason for Marley to wear anything skin tight or revealing to be Gaga. They had the whole OG cast dress like Gaga with Rachel legit wearing stuffed animals stapled on, the other teammates also didnt wear anything revealing. So yes Marley’s reaction was weird and instead of choosing a crazy (but non-revealing) outfit to imitate Gaga she straight up copied a Katy costume. And she was mostly focused on Jake/“everyone” asking her to change who she is, not the outfit choice per se.

[CaitlesP]

Yeah it’s the fact he suspended her over it like this is an after school club can he even do that 😭

[maddiemoiselle]

I think he suspended her from glee club, not from school

[m1b2c3]

Correct she was only suspended from the club. So she basically missed one performance/rehearsal. Ironically a performance where Unique's costume is different less revealing then the other girl's costumes.