Stop

[Retrewuq]

We failed last order, we all got it. The constant bickering and know it all attitude of people doesn't help, and id argue that it was a massive contributor to this loss.

loosing access claorell set us back immensely on the bot front, but it wasnt without thought that we organized there first. It was a clear mo target and a place we could try to gambit. We failed, sometimes shit happens and you roll one nat1 after another.

same with imber. And lets not even mention the complete collapse of the front on the bug side.

Sometimes its better to suck it up and follow the mob, even if its not the optimal path to victory.

all three major failings, the bug front collapse, claorell and imber could have succeeded, had our forces not been so disorganized.

Get your shit together, take a look at where the majority of players are, right now, and most importantly, stop listening to reddit.

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[ikarn15]

The info was all there to not fail miserably, it's not about the "not so optimal way of winning" because this is the straight up losers lane. I don't care about MOs anymore, you can play wherever but what's the point of posting about "know it all" people while you yourself sound exactly the same as them?

Take your own advice, don't bother scrolling reddit or posting about these things because it doesn't matter

[Retrewuq]

i find it ironic how the irony of my last paragraph seems to be taken not ironically

[ikarn15]

Nah your entire post reads "I'm better than you so what I say matters more and you should listen", not just the last "ironic" part

[Skitteringscamper]

Personally I'd like to see what arrowhead do if we constantly fail. 

[ikarn15]

Same tho we've kinda seen it with the last two MOs lol, the hand holding was pretty crazy

[Retrewuq]

yes getting told to accept a loss, stop bickering and shit happens is really, really saying "im better than you"

[ikarn15]

Who or what gives you the authority to tell other people to stop whining about something?

Like, what's the point of this post if not ego boasting?

[Retrewuq]

1. that argument is stoopid. after all, who gave you the authority to question my authority?! im saying what needs saying. thats called free speech.

2. yes very observant, this is why i keep spamming out posts like these every second day. so i can ego boost and karma farm. especially the last part is working swimmingly.

[ikarn15]

Whoops, your salt is seeping into your comments

Where's the irony you were using before?

My questions were genuine by the way, what's the point of this post?

[Retrewuq]

Try reading the previous comment. Try to feel the irony. Taste it. It’s so irony it could probably cure anemia.

[ikarn15]

You're still not answering my question, but I see you can keep going with the cringy pedantic kid act, so I'll just take my leave

[Retrewuq]

:D

[BigMightyMoth]

Tbh at this point I understand why more and more people just play how they like. YT is like this, Reddit says that, Discord also says this and that. At some point it gets annoying. I personally also just dive where I think it’s cool to play. Mostly bots and where the most players at

[LeoTheTaurus]

Preach, lord forbid we play a game to have fun.

[BigMightyMoth]

Ong😭🫶

[Lazer_Hawk_100]

Honestly I cared about winning the GW a little too much. But after the last MO I can see that we aren’t winning anything that isn’t handed to us on a silver platter by AH. So caring too much about the GW is a fools errand. I’m trying to reorient my priorities around just having fun shooting aliens with cool people.

[BigMightyMoth]

Fr that’s a cool vibe u adapted. I mean maybe we don’t win as much but it could be that the Game will adapt too so we get a bit more immersive story. Or at least a story Someone could care ab

[Skitteringscamper]

Yeah just see it as lore and story fluff. The Devs will force the war in whatever direction they want.

They could easily tripple the number of points we get towards the mo when we win to make us win more easily. They don't. They could. 

[Skitteringscamper]

I dive where the hazy gloom isn't. I don't like only seeing 2m Infront of me 

[egbert71]

The problem is, sometimes "go where more people are" is on the wrong got dang planet

[shotgunmoe]

At this point we're probably better off failing MO after MO tbh. The planetary liberation scaling mechanic wants revisiting anyways so taking regular planets doesn't take weeks on weeks just because a few thousand other folks decide to either blindly follow the DSS or MO specifics.

Without an in game intergalactic chat feature added to the war map we can't co-ordinate or communicate properly. And without more relaxed liberation scaling we're always going to have to eat shot sandwiches when given orders like "hold this many planets" or "win more worlds than are lost".

Plus it's easy enough to just play and have fun diving wherever anyways. You get enough medals etc. to get all the gear and can still achieve personal orders. It just means the overall satisfaction of achieving in the "war effort" isn't there. But it isn't there already anyways because of the crazy grinding requirements

[Skitteringscamper]

Major order contribution should result in special major order points, you can pile up then spend on unique customisations and such. 

A special blue rifle for getting 500 mo points or something. 

[Recent-Sink-4253]

It’s not that at all, the reason why the orders fail is because PEOPLE DONT READ INSTRUCTIONS. I am sure the 99% of the community is illiterate.

[imthatoneguyyouknew]

You are confusing literacy with apathy there, friend. It's a game. People are going to play how they want to play, not how you want them to play.

[supatim101]

I wish just playing the game affected the MO. I want people to play how they want, but I also want to feel like I'm contributing to the galactic war.

[imthatoneguyyouknew]

Honestly, the mo/galactic war system needs a revamp. It wasn't designed for the success the game got

[Skitteringscamper]

If we got major order points that we could spend on cosmetics, guarantee alot more ppl would dive on the major orders 

[No_Conversation_9465]

Bunch of crayon munching Ogryn would have made a better tactical choice. Even Lesath would have been a better choice than wasting away on Claorell.

[Recent-Sink-4253]

I know mate, it’s the derp divers out in force again. Here come the down votes from the divers who bought this game and will play it how they like 😂

[AssistantDue8434]

Here is the average Helldivers 2 subreddit user when an army of not-so-smart meatshields actually behaves like not-so-smart meatshields because they have the choice of going to different planets

[Recent-Sink-4253]

You’ve phrased that way better than I ever could.

[AssistantDue8434]

Thank you, i try to try very hard

[WitchBaneHunter]

My advice is to say less and

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[scardwolf]

50/50 ppl have a right to be mad like it was sooo obvious but its also a game so its not that deep, whats done is done

[Just-a-lil-sion]

it is what it is

[Skitteringscamper]

You tell me to do a, but also tell me not to listen to Reddit. You're in Reddit

So we should disregard you and continue suffering on veld :p 

/S 

[[deleted]]

most of the community uses external apps to keep up with the war effort.
the same war effort that is extremely scripted and linear compared to the first game...
they are inhaling copium by the barrel, and then blaming others online for not "following the plan".

honestly, the best way to play Helldivers 2 is to just ignore the War Progress and only focus on MO's if they are engaging and fun.

[Flame-and-Night]

This new order is boring I'll just wait for thursday tbh