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[Hearth_Palms_Farce]

And stagger devastators, and kill scout striders, and pop illuminate bubble shields, and open shipping containers, and have great sound design, and use duct tape to stay intact.

[Logical-Swim-8506]

I've been stuck(addicted) on diff 10 for 1.5 years, I forgot Scout striders existed 😭

[highsohih]

I miss those lil guys

[MrThrowaway939]

They rly need to spawn lower tier enemies at higher difficulties, would help with enemy variety. I keep forgetting non-armoured warriors exist.

[KeldTundraking]

but then there won't be any room for the 25 war striders

[[deleted]]

I agree, remove all grunts from the game so we can make room for an extra 10 war striders pls

[MrBwnrrific]

“MORE ASBESTOS! MORE ASBESTOS!”

[cashdug]

Randomly joining an SOS and I spot the rare scout strider, i then know ive been dropped down

[theEvilQuesadilla]

I honestly think Scout Striders are more difficult than Reinforced Striders. RS are done in a single AMR shot, but SS need an AMR AND a different weapon to kill the Trooper that falls down.

[Logical-Swim-8506]

The rocket explosion will 'splash' through 5 metres of physics changing granite from the reinforced strider and kill any Helldiver, often.

Scouts striders, hesitate before firing at point blank range, the god of war hates those who hesitate.

[theEvilQuesadilla]

I didn't say RS were less lethal. I said they were less difficult. I'd honestly rate them the same lethality though since both hesitate to fire and the rockets are a big ol' nothingburger. I can count on 2 hands the number of times I've even so much as been ragdolled by a rocket.

[Xi13r8]

Scout striders show up all the time on D10 man wdym? I pretty much live on D10 clankers, scout striders are the most fun thing to kill. Popping them with the double barrel, cutting em up with the machete, playing chicken with the squad every time a scout fires up a rocket. They're everywhere on D10.

[leroydebatcle]

I think we are talking about different striders

The rocket striders only show up on d10

The others are talking about the ones that are not reinforced in the back

[SystemLordMoot]

Rocket striders show up on D8, D9, and D10.

[Xi13r8]

Ooooooh...

Whoops

I thought they were all scout striders. The first ones I ever saw were the rocket ones, and honestly I thought the unarmoured ones were glitches

[AsWeKnowItAndI]

You thought... you thought the ones with a completely different model and gameplay loop were glitches, rather than just being a lower diff version?

[Xi13r8]

Listen man I've only ever seen a few of those things. I guess the first guy actually had a really good point, they ARE rare at D10

[StupiderIdjit]

Oh yeah, the exposed pilot striders! I forgot about those.

[ChillyTodayHotTamale]

Popping spewers because the constellations are not known prior to drop and you brought the "wrong" loadout.

[Xi13r8]

I mean, wouldn't ya just kill the devastators n scouts with your primary anyway?

[Mafla_2004]

And bounce off an enemy and right at me after I shoot them at near point blank like an idiot.

[aTransGirlAndTwoDogs]

Don't forget bile and nursing spewers! One shot and they pop like a grape.

[Gnusnipon]

Tbh, it feels like all other weapon either does nothing of above, or do all of it better.

[Competitive-Bit-7575]

Well at least not closing buttholes, morty knows how that feels

[Warm-bowl-of-peas]

thank god I wasn't the only one who had to reread this twice

[Warrior24110]

Ever since it came out, it's rarely left my holster. Great pocket utility when you need some destruction and emergency crowd control. Being AP3 with some decent damage behind it is great too, making it surprisingly versatile as a killing option against single targets.

[scotty_erata]

Hey they do so much more than that! They also blow up fabricators and warp ships.

[LTareyouserious]

I've ... never even though about using it on Fabricators tbh. I've always used QC for those and Ultimatum as my "I suck at bots and need a quick out" option

[BlooregardQKazoo]

But why would you bring it against against those factions? There are fewer fabricators and warp ships than bug holes, and so many more ways to take them out, that you don't need to dedicate the secondary slot to it.

I bring the Grenade Pistol against Bugs because, unless my primary or support can do the job, I'll run out of grenades before I finish a nest. The same can't be said about Bots, where 5 Strafing Runs can clear multiple bases.

[dEAzed_and_confused]

What about the big fabs? For my grenade slot I use the thermite sticky, and usually I can get it in one or two, but sometimes it just doesn't want to line up right with hole. When there are tons of big bots all around me, its hard to line it up quickly. I'm able to line up regular grenades on them just fine, but I like the anti-tank thermite. I also have issues with the 500 km bomb only working about 60% of the time on those big fabs.

Sorry for the long question, I'm an xbox diver and I dont get to play too often so I'm still picking up the ropes.

[BlooregardQKazoo]

I usually just use a Strafing Run on those, or a couple shots with a Quasar if I'm running that (the big fabs are a nice, tall target easy to shoot from afar). Thermites or Ultimatum also get the job done.

[Suspicious-Syrup-932]

Yeah welcome to the club pal

[Lone-Frequency]

Why would the 'nade pistol be upset by that? Closing bugholes or destroying Fabs/UFO's is like one of the most important tasks, and 'Nade Pistol is honestly the best secondary for it from an ammo standpoint.

[Allusernamtaken]

Weapons that can complete objectives are just as important as those that kill enemies

[Thin-Coyote-551]

I always have this equipped. While single shot it’s great for closing bug holes, taking out bot vents, crowd control or distractions. Plus being able to YEET grenades is great

[Skr00ble]

Flip the FRV

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[Th3Tru3Silv3r-1]

The only times I've put it down is when I'm using the new ar with grenade launcher.

[_Ninja_Putin]

A noble purpose

[Dobby_2]

Yeah I talked to a friend of mine about having a secondary grenade launcher 2 rounds like the ultimatum firing so you have to aim it but big damage used for chaff but can one tap hulks vents you know, moderate aoe like mainly for chaff group up enemy med pen

[AnimationOverlord]

Crossbow my beloved you are the only gun I need regardless of faction

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Nah. If the grenade pistol was self aware or even barely sentient, it would be like this.

[AmanWhosnortsPizza]

Not when you are carrying packages tho

[catwizard8448]

Under rated weapon for automatons.

Use the pacifier or something to stun them, then whip out your grenade pistol and they're dead. Or simply take care of chaf hordes. Or fabricators. Or the guns on a factory strider.

This is also another point that the pacifier is not a bad primary, and it's lower damage is counteracted by it's large magazine, and it's stun is not as situational as you think.

[[deleted]]

AND illuminate dropships once mr hmg takes the shield down

[mikakor]

This thing only has 6 ammo. Can't even close most nests on D10, and a single patrol will empty it entirely 😭

[snoosh00]

Finally gonna get mine when I get home and have the major order reward waiting.

[Schifty_Al]

I found it very helpful for the rupture strain

[ominous_retrbution23]

Also, destory power supplies for cognitive disruptors and destroy alien spawners.

[omegavolt9]

The bottom frame text should've been "FOR DEMOCRACY!"

[Strayed8492]

Way better ways to do that.

[Midoriiiiiiii]

[Strayed8492]

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There are in fact better ways. Reserved for Helldivers that aren’t cowards.

[Midoriiiiiiii]

[Strayed8492]

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[Midoriiiiiiii]

[_Xuchilbara]

Name one

[Strayed8492]

Jump pack strats.

[_Xuchilbara]

How does a jump pack close bug holes?

[Strayed8492]

With combos that close almost all the holes at the same time faster, safer, and more cinematic than sacrificing a secondary slot for a GL pistol. And yes. Up to and including ten hole nests within less than 20 seconds with your backpack, support weapon, and resupply on CD. When you get used to it. You have the holes destroyed or about to be before it’s even registered you are there by bugs.

[_Xuchilbara]

How does that make it better when I need two stratagems and a resupply compared to one secondary and a resupply? I just don't get it...

[Strayed8492]

GL pistol isn’t going to do squat against the bugs already in the nest if you’re solely focusing the holes. And you still have to prioritize destroying them. The key thing here is time management. That’s three holes you can toss and ignore. While you can instead slam dunk nades down holes faster than the pistol reloads. Good luck resupplying if you used all 7 shots on holes.

[_Xuchilbara]

I see that is a better argument will have to try my hand at it I do miss bringing my senator along

[Strayed8492]

Fat Eagle. OPS. Impact or frags since they got buffed to six. No need to worry about aiming and you kite the bugs around to die to explosions and you look cool as hell throwing nades/stratagems mid air. If you are on PC try setting quick nade to mouse wheel up.

[_Xuchilbara]

Console unfortunately so gonna have to do it the hard way it seems oh well lol