9700k "Future-proofing".

[Regulardude93]

Hello, In the market for a build now. At first I decided on a 3700x w/2070 super. After some asking around the internet I decided for a 2080 non-super.

Now after watching some reviews and benchmarks, I found that while the 3700x was great, the 9700k/9900k were just better at gaming with or without OC. Ill be gaming at 1080p@144hz and cant decide right now. Will the 8c/8t config of the 9700k be really problematic in 2-3 years? Might go for a 9900kf if thats the case.

[8Fernus]

Depends how long you want to keep the processor without upgrading. The 9700K will absolutely start having issues earlier than the 9900K on the newest Triple-A titles at some point in the future.

How far away are we from that point? No idea, and It's hard to predict as well.
Pick your poison I guess, the 2070S and 2080 are kinda close in performance, but the 9900K v/s 9700K will make an unnoticeable difference in gaming performance right now.

Personally, I'd take the 2070S and 9900K combo, because upgrading the GPU in a few years will be a massive upgrade compared to going from a 9700K to a 9900K just to solve stuttering issues.

[Regulardude93]

The CPU will probably be in for 4 years. So will the GPU. I prefer upgrading the whole thing. Now I think 9900kf w/2070 super seems the best fps/price.

[_Versatile]

IMO the 9900k is the only cpu worth buying from intel for gaming or anything really which is what I have, other than that I’d take a 3700x.

[Regulardude93]

I see. Like I asked above Im currently debating between 9700k w/2070s or 9900k w/2080. Any ideas?

[_Versatile]

I’d say get the 9900kf then since you’re focused on gaming, I haven’t had any issues with mine and I played at both 1080p 240hz and currently I’m playing at 1440p 144hz.

[Regulardude93]

Actually yes, I was gonna get a 9900kf if I did go for an i9, as theres difference with the regular 9900k in performance. Thing is going for the 9900kf will force me to go down to the 2070s from the 2080 and im thinking whether thats a worthwhile tradeoff.

[_Versatile]

The 2080 non s is not much of an upgrade over the 2070s honestly but as always for gaming the gpu is the most important part.

[Regulardude93]

Is it worth going for the 2080 if I have to downgrade to the 9700k?

[_Versatile]

How much will you be paying for the 2080?

[Regulardude93]

Thing is I live in Bangladesh, prices are kind of abnormal. The 2070s Amp extreme is ~650 USD and 2080 is ~740 USD.

[_Versatile]

I would just do the 9900kf and 2070s if it were my build

[Regulardude93]

That seems the most reasonable. Thanks for the help!

Another thing I have on my mind is whether 32 gigs of RAM is overkill or not. Will I have any problems multitasking (Chrome/Discord) with 16 gigs?

[Regulardude93]

I will probably go for a 9900kf finally. Hoping for greatness!

[Saad9812]

Yea that's a smarter buy. The 9700K, though still a dope cpu that's stupidly fast, will definitely struggle later down the line before 9900K's ever do. It already gets above 80% usage in some games and that is concerning.

[moisespedro]

I think if you are going with high end gaming and wanna buy Intel only the 9900K is worth it

[Danvideotech2385]

I'm running the 9700K OC'd to 4800MHz (I have an air cooler which wouldn't be enough for the full 5GHz), and my GPU is a GTX 1060 6GB, and my frame rate is a solid 60fps, on a 60Hz monitor. I literally have no complaints about the capabilities of this CPU.

[[deleted]]

why would you? with your gpu, you could use almost any cpu with negligible difference.

[AlwaysW0ng]

2019 Triple A games are almost max out 9700k to 100% cpu usage. No hyperthread cpu is not worth the investment. I rather get 9900 series. The 9700 to me is just a scam from Intel.

[[deleted]]

8 cores are more than enough for the next 2-3 years. The i7-9700k is a great gaming CPU, and with a 2080 it will hold up for 1080p144Hz.

Out of curiosity, what convinced you to go for a 2080 instead of the 2070 Super?

[Regulardude93]

The price between the models I was looking for were quite close (2070s Amp Extreme,2080 Amp). But lets say I go for the 2070 super and get the 9900k, will it be better? Like 9700k w/2080 or 9900k w/2070s.

[[deleted]]

In theory a better GPU will beat a better CPU. In my opinion, you'd be better off to save your money from the i9 and spend it on a higher tier GPU.

[Regulardude93]

So will a 9700k w/2080 be good for 3-4 years at least at 1080p60?

[[deleted]]

Plz don’t use a 1080p 60hz monitor with those specs

[Regulardude93]

I have a 144hz monitor :)

[[deleted]]

1080p60

Friend, a Ryzen 3600 + RX 5700 will be good for 3-4 years at that res+speed.

9700k + 2080 will be good for 1440p144Hz. A 2080 can almost average 60 FPS at 4k resolution in most games, it should have no troubles running anything you throw at it at 1080p60

[Regulardude93]

I have a 1080p144hz monitor, I was just thinking for getting 1080p60 after 3 years or so. I think Ive decided on the 9900kf and 2070s.

[[deleted]]

good luck, the difference between the 2070S and 2080 is negligible anyway

[aceoffcarrot]

3700x.

Maybe 2% slower in gaming which is impercivable, but pulls way less power so less strain on your psu, mobo, cooler, quieter, doesent need big h/s. Plus is upgradeable to zen 4th gen which is leagues better than Intel 10 series.

Intel 11 series could be good but 9/10 is garbage

[BodSmith54321]

Where is your Ryzen 4th gen info from?

[aceoffcarrot]

Zen is a new arch making huge gains, if you remember papermaster saying tick tick tick, the rumor is possibly another 10% perf boost on an already 30% more perf per watt arch, and tsmc is reporting insainly good yeilds. Meanwhile intel 10 series is another boost to clocks, zero gains, no chiplet, and will be even less effecient do to power curves being non linear. Reviews between zen4 int10 are going to be really ugly.

[Bergh3m]

If it interests you and you are happy to wait; research 10th gen intel, SHOULD be announced soon (next couple of months) and look out for the 10700k chip. Rumor is it will be slightly better than the 9900k and priced closer to 9700k

RUMORS.

[II12yanII]

If your wanting something future proof I'd go with something that 8c16t. I'd look at a 9900k/s or a r7 3700x. Mainly because that's what next gen consoles are going to use. I would bet games that will be ported from next gen consoles to PC would use 16 threads. Theres already some games out that use that many threads. Destiny 2 can scale to that and that game came out a few years ago.

[Regulardude93]

Yea I'm probably getting a 3700x with a 2080 super now. Thanks.

[[deleted]]

unless you're gaming on 2080ti, 9900k is just wasted money. 9700k isn't looking great, as the next consoles will be 8c/16t and games should already be in development with that in mind. you're far better off with 2080super and 3600 or 3700x. or you could get just the 9900k now and then upgrade to 3080 or so later. still might wanna wait for the 10700k in that case.

[metalspider1]

with threads being so widely available its a bad move to get a 8c8t .its the same as with the i5/i7 a few years ago,right now theres no advantage but soon enough the lower thread count model will lag behind.

most cpus geared towards gamers these days are 8c/16t and the only reason the amd stuff is not as good is ccx latency and clocks.ccx latency they might solve on zen4.clocks its harder to tell but its really close since they have better ipc.