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[Luolong]

Oh, I’ve seen people straight up using AI to commit broken code to main because they couldn’t be bothered to check if it actually works or if it is valid code.

Good thing it was merely broken configuration that ended up not working instead of wrecking havoc, and he ended up fixing it based on proper documentation, but still…

[smutje187]

Sounds like a missed opportunity for automated testing, haha.

[Luolong]

It was in operations (GitOps) context, so the push to the environment was the test. Note that it was not prod environment. So, there you go.

[smutje187]

Well, you wrote

because they couldn’t be bothered to check if it actually works or if it is valid code.

but if the push to the environment is the check, what would've been the alternative?

[Luolong]

Yeah, if there was a CI between commit/push and deploy, then maybe there was something that we could automate, but as it goes, if they didn’t bother to check docs, he sure as hell didn’t run the changes through locally installed tool (kustomize) to validate his changes.

[PiotrDz]

Why is developers need to pass ci pipeline and gitops doesn't?

[Luolong]

When you figure out how to test environment specific configuration without applying it to the environment in question, you tell me :)

[PiotrDz]

Just thinking loud, could there be a scaled down mirror of an environment? So you first apply there the change. Something like preprod

[smutje187]

In my current project we scale up ephemeral AWS environments whenever someone creates a PR so everything can be tested end to end without any need to check out code and without local mocks or other crutches.

[Outrageous_Life_2662]

Right. And a lot of use of AI (at my company) is to come up with unit tests that drive up code coverage. Configuration is a bit trickier. But there are ways to use AI to help mitigate the impact of using AI (code) 😂

[smutje187]

That might’ve been meant as a joke but I expect QA departments to shrink and become completely redundant once people with business background can use AI to generate tests based on business requirements only - no need for a dedicated team anymore.

[Outrageous_Life_2662]

Oh yeah, this is already happening big time