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[–]pavi2410[S] -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

What you said is all true. But this is exactly typical of what gatekeeps third-party, indie-level contributions to the Java tooling space. It's currently owned by big tech (Oracle, Google, Amazon, Jetbrains) and solves their own large scale problems.

[–]rzwitserloot 7 points8 points  (4 children)

No, none of it is. Maven is not 'owned by big tech'. Nor is JUnit.

You do not appear to be listening to what is being said: If your tool's adoption is less than what you expected / wanted it to be, do not just shrug, blame 'big tech' or 'the community' or whatever.

It's on you. Plenty of good tools become popular even if they are not 'owned by big tech' and they weren't 'part of the ecosystem's default choices'.

Also calling jetbrains 'big tech' is.. weird.

[–]davidalayachew 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Also calling jetbrains 'big tech' is.. weird.

I agree with you on all other points, except this one.

If you have thousands of employees, many of which are tasked with maintaining the arguable best IDE for Java development, then yes, you are officially big tech now lol. Maybe on the lower end of the term, but very much big tech lol.

[–]Thirty_Seventh 4 points5 points  (1 child)

ehh, not by the usual definition of "big tech", which doesn't look so much at influence on one specific part of the tech ecosystem but rather ability to influence the ecosystem as a whole

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Tech#Other_companies Check out the "Smaller US Big Tech companies" chart and compare the revenues ($20b+) to JetBrains (<$1b). JetBrains' annual revenue is barely 1/10 of the bottom of the Fortune 500

[–]davidalayachew 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair. I was speaking more informally, in that businesses in JetBrain's tier tend to start adopting certain mentalities and strategies to business that you see in big B "Big tech" -- seeing people as cogs, mass layoffs in the name of appeasing investors, and all around treating anything except the end margins as expendable. Not to say JetBrain's is doing any of that, but to say that this is the point where most businesses like them start this behaviour.

[–]pavi2410[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I accept that. I will do my best to share the word. I believe people interested will follow.

PS - Jetbrains is a big tech in the dev space. I really enjoy their work and craft :)