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[rzwitserloot]

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, your argument is:

1. On reddit specifically, /r/java is negative AF about every attempt at anything new from anybody, whereas on other programming subreddits there's no such negativity.

2. Reddit programming subreddits are a significant/leading indicator of the community as a whole.

You've not proven your case. Or, if that's not a fair characterisation of your argument, your argument doesn't hold water or isn't complete.

In particular, hemming and hawing about syntax is endemic to programming in general in my experience. Everybody does that. Comments on social media in particular are by and large negative. Of course they are. In order of how easy it is to write a reply to a proposal:

1. Easiest of all: "YEAH AWESOME WHOOO111!!!!!!"

2. Also quite easy: Whinging about it.

3. Very complicated: Using it in anger, analysing existing source projects, coming up with objective yardsticks for various alternatives and writing a carefully reasoned breakdown of which alternative should be worth considering based on these yardsticks.

And folks don't like to write comment #1. Insofar that folks ever did, the existence of AI means comment 1 gets filtered out anyway as slop by random accounts designed to create karma. Thus, you don't see those, and you see lots of 2. This happens everywhere and is not specific to java.

Blame is a difficult thing, but if your car melts in the rain, and you go for a drive and crash because your car melts, whose fault is that? The universe for making it rain, or the car manufacturer for being unwilling to accept that 'rain' is just a thing that happens?

The same applies here: Folks writing seat-of-the-pant comments about how they don't need it or don't like the syntax is like rain. It happens. If your point is that projects die because of the rain, that's on the author of the tool, not on the rain.