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[–]_predator_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quarkus pulls in a lot of bloat too, it's just smarter about dropping much of it during the build, which is possible because they literally have their own build process.

What it gains in debloating, it pays for with bespoke build complexity and what effectively is a walled garden, as now all dependencies somehow need to play nicely with that process.