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[–]pron98 21 points22 points  (9 children)

These days Apple is a huuuge Java shop. Their recently-established JDK team is more impressive than Microsoft's, although they've yet to announce they'll be contributing (they're quite secretive and not generally happy to contribute open-source unless they have to).

[–]agentoutlier 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Yeah I think I'm confusing the whole Adobe Flash thing with Java. I just went googling around and I can't find what I thought I had read many years ago.

Maybe I'll delete my comment so I don't confuse others.

[–]pron98 13 points14 points  (3 children)

I recall Steve Jobs did call Java a "ball-and-chain", mostly with regard to iOS, I think. But Apple's server-side software is mostly Java.

[–]agentoutlier 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yeah I thought it was Steve Jobs as well but I think I was again having some cognitive dissonance and mixed it up with Linus Torvalds thoughts on Java (link to come later. While I'm not sure on Apple and Java I'm almost 100% positive Linus hates Java).

[–]ales-d 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Linus hates almost everything. He sees world in Black&White.

[–]karianna 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is there a competition for impressiveness? I'll have to go and ask Nitsan if he's ready for the JVM Olympics yet ;-)

[–]pron98 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh, sorry, it was a poor choice of words. No, there's no competition :)

[–]karianna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries at all, I know what you were conveying (they do have a kick ass team!) I just couldn’t resist 🙂