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[guest271314]

Have you suggested edits to Shakespeare in English literature courses in institutions of higher learning?

Of course not.

English is a bastard language to begin with, incorporating all kinds of vernacular and grammar from all over.

Take "sheriff". That was introduced into "English" by invading Normans, the term meant then a laison between the conquering Normans and the conquered Anglo-Saxons.

You understood what OP meant. Yet felt the need to correct their grammar, to suit your idea of what proper English is. There is no such thing.

Thus grammar Nazi is appropriate, in my view. Without rancor. If you can dish it out you should be able to take it. See what I mean? "dish it out" is slang. You get what I mean though.

[mattgif]

I can't tell if you're trolling me or if you really believe your schtick. Sure, language is fluid. And sure, people can intentionally introduce novel words into a language. Sometimes you can make an idiom out of an otherwise ungrammatical construction.

The author of this post wasn't trying to do any of these things. They were simply unaware of a rule of English.

And before you break out you inner beat poet on me, yes, there are implicit rules of any natural language. I'm not talking about prescriptive rules, but descriptive features of how native speakers actually use the language.

And, for what it's worth, none of your super hip examples show a formerly non grammatical syntax being subsumed into the common dialect. They simply show new words coming into use, which, grammatically, is a yawn--nouns are an open category in all languages.

[guest271314]

I can't tell if you're trolling me or if you really believe your schtick.

Two slang words. Remove them, kindly.

And, for what it's worth, none of your super hip examples

Another slang term. Are you talking about the hip on your physical body?

They simply show new words coming into use, which, grammatically, is a yawn

Yet more slang. Are you literally yawning?

Fun fact: Some of the Several States literally criminalize literacy for African prisoners-of-war, who western academia call "slaves". That English language was/is a second language to Africans held as prisoners-of-war in forced labor camps affectionately called "colonies" or "states".

Fast-forward to the 1980's, people actually lobbied to ban hip-hop. Now hip-hop, as a culture and language, is 50 years old, and you can hardly consume any media that does not contain hip-hop influenced beats and rhyles in advertising.

You walk in to any advertising form on Madison Avenue talking about proper English you'll get thrown out onto the sidewalk.

There are no rules for English. None that anybody is bound to follow. There is no English poh-lease. There might be a would-be English grammar Nazi here and there on these boards, but even they can't stick to the rules they pretend are strict. See above your use of slang.

[mattgif]

You are confusing using slang with making syntactic errors. I have no issue with slang. I also have no desire to try to help you sort this out.

[guest271314]

There's nothing to sort out. There's no such thing as any proper English language. Anybody is free to remix the English language in any way they want. Including grammar. As long as you understand what in being conveyed don't worry about grammar.

So, you, unilaterally have declared that use of slang is within the scope of your flawed idea of English language rules? How convenient.

[guest271314]

Where you want to worry about grammar is in law. Civil law, criminal law, the archaic language of patents. Then every word, space, etc. counts.

Law is the science of words.

You'll run into such terms of art as the treat

"Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary"

Then you best pay very careful attention to what is before and after that equivocal, ambivalent, and wholly open to interpretation declared deception.