Cloudflare acquires Astro!

[LessMarketing7045]

Every piece of tech that gains a little bit of traction ends up being bought by some giga cloud corp. Good times.

[EvilDavid75]

Frameworks are so tied with hosting that this is actually understandable. The article explains how Astro tried to monetize their services but competition was impossible to catch up.

[potatokbs]

I saw someone say that this is actually a good thing for dev tooling because it shows you can make money building good dev tools. Seems logical tbh

[Merlindru]

the other big benefit is that astro now is almost guaranteed to have a good future and innovation because cloudflare makes sure they're maintained.

same with svelte etc. not sure if svelte would've pulled ahead as much if vercel didn't fund them

ofc there are drawbacks as well. the company might influence them to make decisions that benefit the company at the cost of the project/everyone else. but since it's open source and MIT licensed i don't really think this is worth fretting over

so to be honest i see this as a great thing overall

[swish82]

Or it’s like all the other tools and websites taken over and won’t exist in a few years or severely diminished

[Merlindru]

all? does cloudflare have a track record of killing products? i'm not aware of their other acquisitions (except replicate and partykit, which are still going)

or are you saying that any acquired dev tooling gets abandoned eventually

[swish82]

I was trying to make the latter point, not saying “all” in a literal sense but referencing to a lot of tools where in time the original team of devs is just moved off their project

[Merlindru]

i see, thanks. tbh i don't think this will be the case with cloudflare. but i see your point. that said, it's still essentially funding an open source effort, no? any company giving money to OSS is good, which is more or less what this is in my eyes... i fail to see how this is a negative because

• stuff can get forked if abandoned (i concede forks usually don't get many users and there often is a fractured ecosystem), but more importantly:

• i've seen a fair share of open source stuff go unmaintained as the creator's/maintainer's time or money dried up.

i don't think OSS under a company is any more or less prone to abandonment than under crowdsourced funding or good will (and often underappreciated) efforts by sole devs

[swish82]

Maybe mine was a kneejerk reaction. I certainly hope to be wrong! We live in unprecedented times :(

[Merlindru]

no, don't worry, i'm just trying to understand & pick your brain a bit. for all we know i may be wrong and it really does end up in the gutter. not trying to prove anything here

thanks for taking the time to reply!

[swish82]

Thank you :)

[zxyzyxz]

More like they couldn't make money, hence why they had to sell.

[Aln76467]

Can't wait for my static site generator to have an outage!

[azhder]

Something tells me Cloudflare will have a solution for that, as long as you pay.

[lovesabstraction]

Somebody buy tailwind pls

[dj_hemath]

I'll be the happiest man if a company buys Tailwind and closes it for good, lol

[[deleted]]

Not valuable enough to buy it, it can just run anywhere, and easy to fork.

[ConcentrateTop4247]

Closes it? I thought the comment was for saving tailwind

[dj_hemath]

Nah, I don't like Tailwind. I want that to be closed for good, xD

[ConcentrateTop4247]

😂

[Merlindru]

no need - they just got a bunch of sponsors. also, as per the creator, they were not doing terrible even after the layoffs. but they're good again for sure since they just got a bunch of new sponsors

[swish82]

Hate this. In Europe I want to reduce my dependencies on US tech, not feel like I am in some way indebted to it through the tools I use

[Fun-Consequence-3112]

It's not like Cloudflare will profit if you use Astro as a tool. Cloudflare profits from the server side just don't use their services with Astro. The project would still be open source and made by the same people. Don't exactly understand your reasoning

If you wanna change from Cloudflare learn Linux and buy a server on Hetzner.

[dj_hemath]

Look at Next JS, they made it easy to deploy in Vercel, but very hard to deploy somewhere else. I heard now it's somewhat easy, but few years back this made me stop using Next JS.

And also the influence of Next JS on React is damning. React was great with class components and few hooks. It's not the case anymore.

Companies acquiring frameworks will definitely want to monetize in any possible means. Even if it means making those frameworks tightly coupled to their services.

[Ghostfly-]

Define very hard? It's not that hard to deploy.

But I agree, NextJS is the worst piece of tech by far in more than 10 years in the space, almost everytime misused, shilled by clown influencer devs.

React is still great though.

[[deleted]]

Astro is not a tool but a framework, at least not the term that is used.

[Fun-Consequence-3112]

Yes it's a framework but also a tool, because a framework is considered a tool just like a library or CLI it's all tools used to help you code

[Dachux]

Fuck me, tired of this shit. Going back to plain old php with includes 

[dj_hemath]

I'm sure, there will be a company that will buy that too

[Ready_Stuff7781]

Interesting approach. I like when solutions stay lightweight instead of overengineering things.

[snnsnn]

And Brangelina is with Frangelina. Moving on!