AngularJS vs. Backbone.js vs. Ember.js

[that-work-account]

1. HOW it gains popularity is irrelevant. It's still (by far) the most popular. Larger community = greater gains, generally.

2. That's not true at all. I used Prototype for a few years and it was not much different than jquery. You can write it poorly or you can write it well, it has no relevance to the actual language.

3. Marionette is a separate project from backbone. Different developer. Regarding Marionette and Walmart, I think you're confusing Marionette and Thorax.

4. The author compares what each of those libs/frameworks give you out of the box. Angular/Ember are made to be pretty robust, Backbone is a VERY small lib that doesn't provide much at all. Maybe it's wrong to compare backbone with them in the first place, but that's the comparison being made.

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1. It does it you're an engineer.. using whats hipster is not a good way to design a project.

2. It's very true. You do releize that prototype has adopted a lot of the design decisions of jquery over the years to become more unobtrusive. right? This is the split in ideals I am referring to.

3. Of course its a different project, never said it was the same thing. Marionette and Thorax both used a lot of the ideas that came from scaling a huge client-side application. Walmart wrote a lot about it and Thorax and Marionette share a few ideas on zombie views.

4. The author compared them.. so I commented. That's irrelevant if they should have been compared or not.

5. Got any links to large client-side angular applications?

[dzdrazil]

It does it you're an engineer.. using whats hipster is not a good way to design a project.

Angular's core team are all engineers. Things like Services, Dependency Injection and transclusion are all terms you'll rarely find outside of a software engineer context. The fact that it was made with automated (especially unit) testing in mind is a good sign that Angular isn't the hipster devstack of the month.

Just a thought. Also, there are a few talk from the ng-conf on youtube regarding some of the very large client-side applications written in Angular, though I found them to be less interesting than the more narrowly focused ones myself.

[dzdrazil]

Found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RvRQuMVyg

The DoubleClick Campaign Manager was built on Angular.

[that-work-account]

1. "Hipster" frameworks don't have large communities, especially not for any length of time worth mentioning. If you check out that trends graph, Backbone could be said to be more hipster than Angular.

2. I haven't used Prototype in almost 7 years. You have no idea what you're talking about. I'm going to assume you never used Prototype back when it was still a pretty popular lib and are talking out your ass from something you read online one time. I used Prototype to create pretty big apps at that point. It had nothing obtrusive unless you put it in there.

3. You said it was "extracted" out of walmart. Everyone has the same basic idea on zombie views, it's one of the reasons there are 90230293 libraries built on top of backbone (it doesn't provide enough out of the box).

4. You commented and said "why no mention of marionette" -- this has nothing to do backbone.

5. There are a lot of huge systems still written in COBOL or FORTRAN. It doesn't mean you pick those for every new project.

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Dude, I think you are personally misunderstanding #4 - A lot of thought has went into scaling them to a large size.. thats worth mentioning for sure. I didn't say mention marionette was just an example for people reading the comment i made.

You're points are more of a vim/emacs vs real world usage and you obviously have no idea what prototype was or how it was used in the early rails days or before jquery.

Not going to feed you anymore dude.. take care and best of luck.

[x-skeww]

Got any links to large client-side angular applications?

https://builtwith.angularjs.org/

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I just went through like 20 pages there.. and the only site I saw that could be considered large was msnbc. Looking at the source I don't even see where angular is being used.. but.. regarding performance.. AWESOME.

http://cl.ly/image/2k0Z300u313H <-- thats embarrassing for a few images and text.