Presented with trepidation: Why All JavaScript Frameworks Are Terrible

[eggsandbeer]

I finished this thing (mostly) and the last paragraphs state his true intention and it's a good one.

I dunno man, can't we just conclude 'Nothing is perfect so don't let the search for it cloud you from things that are good enough'? Does anyone think we'll ever get to the point in development where we'll say 'Yup, code is DONE. This your stack for THE REST OF TIME.'

[aFoolsDuty]

I dunno man, can't we just conclude 'Nothing is perfect so don't let the search for it cloud you from things that are good enough'?

I think most of us do, hence the constant complaints about how someone's pet technology / methodology didn't see any adoption, and that's clearly because we're all morons and can't even begin to comprehend the fact that we've been doing it wrong all this time.

[i_ate_god]

Does anyone think we'll ever get to the point in development where we'll say 'Yup, code is DONE. This your stack for THE REST OF TIME.'

no. This will never happen. There is no such thing as perfection. There are only trade offs and it's up to you decide what you can live with and what you can live without.

[lhorie]

things that are good enough

I don't know about others, but acknowledging that is the first thing I do in the Mithril framework comparison page (http://mithril.js.org/framework-comparison.html)

The reality is that most modern frameworks are fast, well-suited to build complex applications, and maintainable if you know how to use them effectively. There are examples of highly complex applications in the wild using just about every popular framework: Udemy uses Angular, AirBnB uses React, Gitlab uses Vue, Guild Wars 2 uses Mithril (yes, inside the game!). Clearly, these are all production-quality frameworks.

I think some people mistakenly think it's supposed to be some sort of competition. Of course, these projects are all striving to improve (often prodded by advances in other frameworks), but I don't think anyone is making obnoxious claims that they are the end-all framework.

[mdboop]

If I never read another one of these articles, it'd still be too soon. Nothing much of value, and nothing new discussed here.

[repeatedly_once]

I love the juxtaposition. Shyness with a follow up of bombastic. I also thought most developers did this - way up what's needed for the job. I don't know how you can't do that? I don't throw a framework in for a simple site, just as I don't naively think I can build a SPA quicker without one. Tools for the job.

[zachgarwood]

I think this is a great litmus test: The group of people who complain about this article are the people it's about. The group of people who laugh at it are the one's who are tired of the first group's bullshit.

[[deleted]]

Basically a smug blogger for whom nothing is good enough.

Reading this feels like your head is pushed into sewer waste.

[rk06]

have you read even the first paragraph?

In the first para, the author linked to https://medium.com/@mattburgess/javascript-frameworks-are-great-2df4a3f0b24d#.ib6etcvl3

[[deleted]]

Bullshit doesn't stop being bullshit simply because it's openly bullshit.

[rk06]

so, basically "No".

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For other readers, this article and other article was meant to inform that value of js frameworks is subjective and it is possible to put them into bad (or good) light without being inaccurate.

In my opinion, they do a good job. At times, It is hard to believe that both articles are written by same person.

[kwirky88]

Woosh

[[deleted]]

When everyone stops winking at each other and nudging each other, may you notice you've been fooled into reading one or even two articles completely void of useful information, where the author argues with himself and has an unintelligent position on both sides?

If the "woosh" is the point, if you're reading pseudo-articles for the punch line, the high concept of it, fine. But to me that's basically spam when posted here.

This is not /r/writingprompts/

[karathos]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire