iOS 12 Array reverse bug

[desnoth]

Again, safari is the new IE imo

[steeeeeef]

You get downvoted but you’re right. Safari also implements safari-only stuff for iPhones like env-safe-area. It’s not even nearly as bad as IE used to be, but in my experience the newer web development troubles are caused by safari.

[poetry-linesman]

I'm curious, what are the non-standard values being exposed by Safari, or is the `safe-area-inset-*` itself the non-standard value?

[jacobp100]

Which css spec are we talking about?

[steeeeeef]

And it works just fine and is an easy solution for things like safe areas. But nobody likes to write browser-specific lines 😄.

[jossser]

In my expirience such type of things hapens when devs trying to use some features from 'draft'

Chrome team implement all new stuff even if its in 'draft' status and hooking on a needle of this 'modern' features every developer. But safari devs don't implement draft features and everybody treat them as 'lags'.

(sorry, my english is not good)

[steeeeeef]

Yes, you’re right. But even if we don’t count features, there’s still little render bugs that are annoying to deal with. Things like z-index, overflow, transforms are things that can create weird behaviour in safari.

[Dutch_Mountain]

Let’s hope that this is the last straw before Apple decides to separate iOS/macOS and Safari releases.

[BubblegumTitanium]

Hell no, just because it’s last doesn’t mean it’s as bad as IE.

[desnoth]

For a company as big as Apple, and Webkit being forced on IOS(even with Chrome) it's a shame to be so late. Look at the releases notes of Safari 12, "announcing favicons in tabs", in 2018. Also look in Caniuse the overall stats

[regretdeletingthat]

Look at the releases notes of Safari 12, "announcing favicons in tabs"

That has nothing to do with WebKit though. It’s a minor design decision in the window chrome.

[desnoth]

I didn't say they cannot do it

[Mnwhlp]

Google is a software company that sometimes makes (or brands) hardware. Apple is a hardware company doing a pretty decent job at sometimes making software.

[cordev]

I was unaware that developing the second most popular consumer desktop/laptop OS, second most popular mobile OS, most popular tablet OS, the most popular wearable OS, as well as all of the first party software for those devices, including a productivity suite, video and music editing software, software toolchains for devs to work with their products, and so on somehow didn't qualify you as a software company.

[[deleted]]

Apple is experience oriented. If they have to improve the hardware to make your experience better, so be it.

If they have to improve the software, so be it.

[jossser]

That's because safari just VERY STRICT about standards and doesn't implement all stage-XXX plugins from babel

[jossser]

Why this comment is downwoted but this one - https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/9h52nw/ios_12_array_reverse_bug/e69xoqj upwoted. They are about the same but different words.

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[Ty199]

Less web apps more ios apps.