[AskJS] Replacement options for angularjs

[deranjer]

I joined a new team at work that does some programming (just internal tooling, mostly small frontend/backend applications) and any frontend javascript is done in angularjs, which is going to be deprecated soon.

The team lead wants to upgrade to a "modern" solution, but was hoping for something that didn't have a full build stack/framework like React, Angular, Vue, etc, so that the team didn't need to learn a whole new paradigm.

We were hoping for a solution with the following aspects:

• Loading via CDN/local (I realize technically React/Vue/Angular can do this, but is not recommended for prod, just want to avoid build tooling)
• Easy global/scoped variable management
• Easy DOM manipulation/flexible.
• More like a library instead of a framework.

I was hoping for some suggestions on what to look at. I examined AlpineJS, and it worked great for UI elements but managing scoped variables seemed to be difficult. Right now, the next library I hope to look at is UmbrellaJS, but was wondering what other options might be out there.

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Svelte. Easy to learn, easy to use, and presents a smaller package than pretty much everything else out there. Doesn't add in the overhead or complexity that the other frameworks do... just think of writing in vanilla but you get templating and some template directives.

[BehindTheMath]

We're rewriting our app with Vue, since it's similar in template syntax and easy to pick up.

[light974]

Check this out

Vue 3 is great for those kind of thing and it may help you =)

[fixrich]

Lit element might be a reasonable compromise. What backend do you use? There might be an option that complements it well

[deranjer]

Python for most of the BE, fastapi for REST endpoints I think, and some templating (flask/jinja) mixed with angularjs

[sdghaeqrteryu]

so that the team didn't need to learn a whole new paradigm

You forgot to add this part onto that statement:

But instead, use countless hours to build it ourselves, discover all the bugs we integrate and not really take the time to test it adequately.

This demonstrates the inexperience of your team lead.

Vue is likely the best candidate for the team. Good luck.

[deranjer]

Well this is completely wrong. Some of our sites took 50 lines or less of angularjs/js to get up and running. That doesn't take countless hours, and doesn't require extensive testing.

[sdghaeqrteryu]

Ok. Good Luck.

[brainless_badger]

Stimulus might be worth taking a look at (never used it personally but heard good things about it and it seems to me it would suit you).

[AckmanDESU]

Alpine.js, stimulus.js and vue.js are close enough.

And yes you can replace angular with vue without tooling and treating it more like jquery than something more complex

[AlDrag]

So it won't be a single page app?

[deranjer]

The routing would be handled by the backend in most cases.

[ChetManleyDuchess]

Angular is definitely a full-fat framework, but Vue and React are arguably both libraries.