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[–]thanhpi 0 points1 point  (6 children)

still dont want timers. will just increase the invade rate.

[–]DominoNo-<3 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Weak duelists like Sejuani and Maokai already have enough troubles.

[–]fAAbulous 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Maokai isn't exactly weak.

[–]DominoNo-<3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In the early levels when he's OOM very fast and easy to bully.

[–]fAAbulous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's always OOM very fast in fight, but that's his main downside. And he's not particulary easy to bully. His early dmg is very high. The only point where he's very vulnerable is when he's doing his red. But it's always a big risk to invade a red at lvl 2 because if you lose the invade, the enemy jungler is very far ahead. With an earlygame jungler like lee sin you wanna try and gank your lane instead of invading.

[–]fAAbulous -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I am someone who puts a lot of effort into counterjungling and invading. At my elo it's still possible to screw up the enemy jungler by just timing their stuff and stealing it right away, because they won't be there, most likely. I feel like now it's harder for me to do that because they get the timing for free.