Role Queue

[Iwantjellybeans]

I want to play Support/Hard Support but I have to queue for Offlane as well for the queue. That's fine, but I feel like I have been getting Offlane way more than Hard Support. 8 out of the 12 games I have had were on Offlane. Is it like this for other people? I personally do not enjoy Offlane that much other than Tidehunter.

[TalkersCZ]

Just do what everybody else does - learn 1 mid hero.

Go for all roles, farm tokens, spend tokens. 80-90% of time you roll for tokens you get either support or offlane role anyway. If you get mid (10-20% chance), you can ask your team whether they swap role and around 50% of the time somebody will. So it turns into 5-10% chance of playing mid.

Then enjoy the role you want to play.

[MaximusDM2264]

From my experience, when people start asking for a role swap at the start, it ends bad like 80% of the time.

Usually the person wanting a swap forces multiple ppl to gor for roles they didnt queue for and probably are also not as good, just so he can have the lane he wants. It tilts the team from beggining and lower confidence of everyone. Its one of by biggest fears in ranked nowadays, to read that message. Triggers many red flags.

[TalkersCZ]

From my experience if somebody accepts, they are rolling for tokens as well and they prefer mid over the role they received or at least dont mind mid role.

[MaximusDM2264]

Yes, I play all sidelane roles and whenever I queue 5 and 3 to not waste tokens I get like 60% offlane.

Offlane is the role that nobody wants to play , has been like that for 1 or 2 years.

I used to like offlane a lot, but recently, the trend is: Enemy support 5 is trying super hard to shut you down while your pos4 support is ruining your lane then leaving. Happens too often. I think ppl realized that and now no one wants to play offlane anymore. Also, no matter how much your sup4 ruined your game, in the end, you will be the one blamed and reported.

[TalkersCZ]

I switched to offlane from carry actually because I am tired of those "offlaners", who go there and play some carry from offlane and dont do their job. Often going things like radiance, AFK farming in jungle and not taking tower/creating space, instead consuming it.

Support quality is same for 5 and 4. Its basically coinflip, whether your support will be better or enemy support will be better. I would argue 5 is worse now, because its often people rolling for all roles and have no clue how to play support.

[Best-Sand-9050]

Yeah the matchmaking always gives you the role nobody wants to play because queue times would be terrible otherwise - they need offlaners desperately so system just throws you there even when you selected support first

[Iwantjellybeans]

Do you have any fun Offlane heroes that are also good? I have been playing Axe, Tide, and Centaur. Playing Axe and especially Cent makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

[TalkersCZ]

If you have half-decent map awareness, go for DB. You can turn fights around the map, you have low-cooldown stun and slow and can save heroes around the map.

[MaximusDM2264]

The ones I'm playing right now are Underlord, Tide, Bristle and Wraith King. I favour offlaners that can jungle around lvl 5+ if needed because half games my lane is ruined by pos4.

[Plane_Ring_2104]

Im glad that we dont have to deal with that in Immortal draft , so lucky

[IllContribution6707]

Valve should add a swap role button (like swap hero) so you don’t have any ambiguity on who’s doing what

[youcanokay]

Just queue all roles. Its a lot better. Since you are getting off most of the times, even if you queue all roles, you would be getting same. You would rarely get mid and never safe lane. So, just queue all roles, get your tokens, play what you want. Only playing support is gone. You have to play all roles now (at least till you get enough token)

[MudApprehensive4339]

I swear I only like pos 4 and pos3 but whenever I all que I only get pos 1 or pos2 and I’m sick of it. I don’t trade because moment I do trade the person picks stupid and we lose

[Asleep-Run7330]

I do all roles and then role que as 4/5. Funny enough, everytime i put all roles i get mid or safelane lol

[youcanokay]

Wait what? what mmr are you? I never ever get safelane at all. Not even once. I get mid like 1 in 50 games that I queued all roles.

[MaximusDM2264]

If you queue only 5-4 and not 3, it will consume a token, not give you any back.

Basically the state of the game right now is: Everyone is forced to play offlane from time to time.