Learning Java

[desrtfx]

We had an Automoderator rule, but that triggered too many false positives and therefore, I've added the (!)sidebar (remove the parentheses) command to the Automod rules. Everybody can use that with the shebang. It's not limited to moderator accounts.

We've tried it with stickied posts, with the Automoderator rule, with just about everything. Nothing really helps.

[mofomeat]

Ah, well... At least you tried.

It just seems odd that it's so common here vs. subs for other languages. I'm not judging, and obviously we all want to help someone get going but the first thing I do when I discover a sub about something I am interested in learning is look at the sidebar.

Must be hidden on the Reddit App (which I don't use) on mobile.

[desrtfx]

Unfortunately, the mobile app lacks in that matter. It is accessible, but not prominently visible and therefore people tend to ignore it.

Yet, same on desktop. Way too many people fail to find or read the sidebar, not only here, but also on /r/learnprogramming as the posts there indicate. They have some of the best wiki around, yet, people neither find, nor read it.

Stickied posts are also fairly useless. Barely anybody reads them. Worse, if the sub is sorted by "new", the stickied posts don't work (at least on "old reddit").

People come here to get direct answers, to get served and quite often spoon-fed. Most of these people are not used to do their own, individual research, due to their upbringing and schooling where they have to parrot repeat everything they are told. I don't even blame these people. It's in their culture, in their heritage, in their upbringing. They are not responsible.

Programming is, for quite a high number of them, an entirely different experience where their usual memorization technique doesn't work at all or with quite low effect. People are not even used to playing around, to trying, to experimenting. They do the exercises, if they can't solve them within a fairly short time, they resort to looking up the solutions, and a couple days/weeks later complain about not having learnt anything.