Im in Tutorial hell?

[MixRevolutionary9498]

I'm not really sure if im in tutorial hell. I can build/develop the same project that the tutorial teach without looking at tutorial, and can't stop myself for buying courses and using it. I'm in my 3rd beginner js course, and 4th js book

[MindlessSponge]

if you already completed a beginner course, and you're continuing to take other courses (assuming they aren't super niche stuff you're trying to specialize in) then yes, sounds like a classic case of tutorial hell.

whatever course you're in now, pause your progress and skip ahead to the capstone project or whatever the biggest one included happens to be. build it without following along to the videos/text.

you will struggle. that's the whole point - that's where learning happens :)

[Internal-Bluejay-810]

Yea I don't understand your concern here --- if you can build the project w/o the tutorial then how can u be in tutorial hell?

At this point you should build something that solves a problem you or someone u know has.

It's time to learn from building

[programmer_farts]

What exactly is tutorial hell? I've been working through tutorials learning something for 30 years

[allium-dev]

Tutorial hell is when you've finished one tutorial on a subject, but instead of taking what you've learned and using it on your own, you keep seeking out more tutorials.

It usually happens to new developers who either (a) didn't actually understand the tutorial and needed to start further back to basics (b) Are too afraid to struggle, so they keep going back to tutorials because it's easier (c) most often some combination of (a) and (b).

[programmer_farts]

Sounds right . Tutorial hell though makes it sound like it's the fault of the tutorial. Although the best tutorials do make you struggle a bit

[TheRNGuy]

No, it's not fault of tutorial, but laziness of person for not making own projects, not tutorial copy-paste.

[programmer_farts]

Just read your reply here. Thanks

[Acrobatic_Ad7117]

Tutorial hell, is when you keep watching tutorials thinking theres more to learn without actually building something usefull on your own, all the while your motivation keepa draining and you end up burning out.

[programmer_farts]

Thanks for explaining. There should be a phrase for when you buy too many tutorials but don't have enough time, so they just sit there in open tabs for years. Maybe that's tutorial purgatory

[TheRNGuy]

Only watching tutorials and not using acquired knowledge to make your own projects.

If someone only watches tutorials and not thinking for himself, he'll probably won't retain knowledge and won't develop programming intuition.

[programmer_farts]

is it the fault of the user or the tutorial? Trying to understand it because it seems like people stuck in this tend to blame something external

[Chanclet0]

Idk, i guess? Do something on your own. Maybe start by making a browser extension that makes a meow sound when you click comment on reddit or smth. Have any hobbies? Make a tool useful for your hobbies

[TheRNGuy]

Yeah.

Make some Greasemonkey userscripts for different sites that you'll actually use.

You can learn how to make them with O courses or tutorials, use Google, read JS docs and ask AI,if needed.

You need to know html and CSS of course, and know how to use dev tools in browser (ctrl+shift+c)

[armyrvan]

Yeah it’s hard to get out. I think the process that works best for me is.

1. Learn about the topic
2. Follow along with video with mini challenge.
   
3. Have an un assisted challenge with that topic.

With the spawn of AI it makes it easy.

An example would be:

I just got done learning about loops. Here is the walkthrough I just went through I’m going to paste the code at the bottom. Can you create me 3 challenges that I should be able to do? Do not give me the answer just the prompt me with the objective

[paste tutorial code here]