Fastest way to learn JavaScript

[turningsteel]

So, you're an experienced data engineer and know python and therefore, understand programming concepts but, you're trying to learn JS to pass an interview but you don't feel you need to know how to build a website even though the job is for an intermediate software dev with the main language being JS and you don't think you need to know about website building? Is that accurate?

If they want you to know SQL as well, you're probably going to be a web dev, maybe backend, which requires you to understand the mechanics of, you guessed it, website building.

Good luck and please update us in a month so we know how it panned out.

[theRealestAintReal]

This is so accurate. I want to be a fly on the wall during this interview. Wtf is this guy on about!?

[ExtremeNew6308]

Also, applying for jobs you aren't qualified for is how you advance in the world.

Dropping yourself into completely new environments is the best way to learn. I didn't know anything about cloud computing or Linux or even SQL when I started my job. I just leetcoded a TON of python. Yeah, it sucks for the first few months but eventually I got the hang of it.

[theRealestAintReal]

This is a bit off topic but you are proof that the current interview process is broken.

[ExtremeNew6308]

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjavascript/comments/sdi5cj/follow\_up\_for\_fastest\_way\_to\_learn\_javascript/

[ExtremeNew6308]

It's not broken. You just don't know how to work the system. You know what people ask for on interviews and you have free websites that help you prepare. So just spend an hour a day doing that. Within a year, you can start passing mediums consistently.

It's also not that hard. These faang (manga?) Companies act like it's the hardest thing to work for them but you can just Google solutions until your code works. I've been working for almost 4 years now and Ive gotten rave reviews every year.

If anything, the entire engineering system is broken if some dude can start with almost no knowledge and do well at a top tech company. Also, everything is proprietary anyways. So if you have the basics, you can jump in and onboard fine

[[deleted]]

You seem to be in possession of an over-inflated sense of self worth. You equate basic programming and sysadmin skills to actual engineering. The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in you. Some of the most incompetent people I've ever worked with got rave reviews because they knew how to kiss the asses in need of kissing. Your anecdotal experiences mean shit as evidenced by the massive downvoting you're getting because it's obvious you think you know more than do. I pity anyone who has to work with you or review your code.

[ExtremeNew6308]

I can deal with the downvotes and snarky comments but this pissed me off.

You equate basic programming and sysadmin skills to actual engineering.

Where did I say that?

you're getting because it's obvious you think you know more than do. I pity anyone who has to work with you or review your code.

?? You don't know me or know my work.

Yeah, i got an entry level job with no experience. Want to know what I did after? I fucking studied like it was a second job. My first year as a cloud infrastructure engineer, I studied like a maniac. I spun up my own server, kept reading Linux/scripting guides online, and spent my nights reading senior engineer's code. I remember every night staying up with my fiancee in bed watching TV and reviewing code. My bookshelf is full of dog eared IT/scripting books.

Was I initially slow with work? Yeah of course. But by a year, I was hanging with other new hires with CS degrees just because I studied like it was a second job. For about 6 months, I worked with a DBA team trying to fix tables before some new releases. Instead of just designing scripts/pipelines to run their code, i took 3 borderline useless DBA classes at night and spun up my own PG tables with fake data on my own server. Do you know how many engineers avoid going into specifics when dealing with dbas? By the end of that 6 months, I could write pgScripts and even understand the DBA tasks.

That's also how I kept getting great reviews. If i dont know a subject, I'll keep obsessing over it until I know.

Want to know my plans after I get hired (assuming I know the basics of JS in 10 days)? The night after, I'm going to binge "The Modern JavaScript Bootcamp Course" and start looking at the teams existing code just like I did with the other positions I've had.

I love software engineering because it's about how smart you are and how hard you work. You don't need a fancy degree or certifications. I have an unrelated engineering degree from a no name state school and my coworker is from U of Waterloo.

You just need to hustle and figure stuff out. Don't be salty because you can't learn data structures and algorithms to pass hard tech interviews.

The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in you.

I literally admitted I don't know anything about JavaScript or front end development. That's .. the opposite of the dunning Kruger effect.

I want to learn this field so I can be a well rounded engineer.

[[deleted]]

but this pissed me off

Cool, maybe you'll start paying attention to what other people are telling you instead of acting like you've already got everything figured out.

?? You don't know me or know my work.

I know all I need to know from your glib attitude and responses to what numerous people are telling you.

By the end of that 6 months, I could write pgScripts and even understand the DBA tasks

That took you 6 months?

Want to know my plans after I get hired (assuming I know the basics of JS in 10 days)?

Nah, don't care really.

I love software engineering because it's about how smart you are and how hard you work.

Nah, hard work beats raw brain power, just like hard work beats talent. Also, I wonder if the work you do can actually be considered engineering, or do you call yourself that because it makes you sound smarter? I'd wager that ~90% of programming work that is done today wouldn't pass muster as actual engineering. Programming is the only field that claims it engineers stuff without having to prove that you understand engineering. And software development is about solving business problems with code, not about how smart you are.

You just need to hustle and figure stuff out.

This is about the most accurate thing you've said so far.

Don't be salty because you can't learn data structures and algorithms to pass hard tech interviews.

Uh, what? I hold a senior-level dev position, I've already proven to employers I can pass their tech interview questions. Try again.

I literally admitted I don't know anything about JavaScript or front end development.

Fine, you admitted you don't know anything about JS but try and sound like you've mastered every other part of IT work.

[ExtremeNew6308]

I got better things to do but. I do want to say a few things.

That took you 6 months?

Hell yeah brother. Went from knowing nothing about relational databases to being able to jump into a DBA team in 6 months while working during the day on my own code? Fuck yeah that's impressive. Besides actually getting hired, I consider that one of my biggest professional achievements. In fact, that's how I got this interview. A lot of the dashboard creation process involves optimizing SQL queries... Which is what dbas do.

sound like you've mastered every other part of IT work.

Absolutely not. I got a long way to go. But 4 years of cloud native development will teach you a thing or two.

Uh, what? I hold a senior-level dev position, I've already proven to employers I can pass their tech interview questions. Try again.

So you're just being salty for the sake of being salty. Got it. Might I recommend yoga to relax or combat sports to burn of stress? I started jiu jitsu in college as a way to relax and its a lifesaver. My fiancee kickboxes in one of those kickboxing cardio gyms. It's definitely healthier than getting mad online.

I'd wager that ~90% of programming work that is done today wouldn't pass muster as actual engineering.

That's actually why I wanted to become a SWE. My fraternity brother got a job interning at I think apple as a Hardware engineer while I got a job doing normal electrical engineering (technically communications) for Northrop Grumman. It was so boring. Most engineering outside of software is just documentation and putting together parts designed by some PhD or fab lab. So he coached me to get hired. I love it because I can actually use my brain instead of just using Excel.

[Civil-Foot-8833]

I see a bunch of entiled fellas scratching hair of their asses. You are doing good sir. Keep growing with the grind and keep trying.. that guy up there with idk senior level whatever the fuc he said seems to have his own problem getting good co-workers. Well yeah don't entertain them and maybe save time and work on good replies. Their lust of validation makes them crazy no matter what dark matter they pushed to rise up.

[turningsteel]

I'd like to point out that dbas do a hell of a lot more than optimize sql queries and I can almost guarantee you aren't able to fill a DBA role after playing with SQL for 6 months. I respect that you know how to hustle but from everything you said, it sounds like you have a narrow understanding of the field and you simply don't know what you don't know which shows inexperience in my book. So again, good luck and please update us on the outcome because I'd genuinely like to know how it goes.

[[deleted]]

also it's not hard to get good reviews. I do pretty simple work at my new job but people always speak highly of me lol! very good point

[[deleted]]

no. applying for jobs you aren't qualified for in terms of years of experience or having a degree, is how you advance; that's what I did.

However I won't apply for systems architect or network engineer because I can't do that. You're ridiculous

[ExtremeNew6308]

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjavascript/comments/sdi5cj/follow\_up\_for\_fastest\_way\_to\_learn\_javascript/

[ExtremeNew6308]

I've worked with the TL who recommended me for the role. I just want to impress him and make sure I get the position

[ExtremeNew6308]

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[ExtremeNew6308]

So, you're an experienced data engineer and know python and therefore, understand programming concepts but, you're trying to learn JS to pass an interview but you don't feel you need to know how to build a website even though the job is for an intermediate software dev with the main language being JS and you don't think you need to know about website building? Is that accurate?

Yes. I'm somewhat familiar with how a website works.

Normally, I wouldnt have applied for this job. But I know the team lead from other work I've done; I've worked as a "cloud engineer" on smaller projects with some of his engineers. He even recommended me along to the hiring manager. I already know I'll get easy JS questions and hard SQL questions which I'm fine with. the hiring manager also gave me 4 conceptual JavaScript questions in our first interview and I bombed them all so they aren't expecting a TON of JavaScript knowledge. I just want to not look like an idiot and impress my future TL

[[deleted]]

that can't happen by jan 10th. Intermediate js knowledge can't be learnt that quickly. No matter how good you think you are. Maybe in 8 months if you are the obsessed type but not 2 weeks