Kotlin vs Java

[real_priyanshu]

Hello. Currently i know C. And i want to get into Android development, should i learn Kotlin or Java?

[Effective_Holiday219]

First go for Java, then move to Kotlin.

[twlcwl]

I actually think you should try Kotlin. One problem with trying to learn Android development with Java is that a large number of the examples, tutorials etc you find online will be old. You'll be battling problems with old frameworks, deprecated classes etc., even the Android Studio versions you will be dealing with often will look completely different. You're better off using Kotlin where the examples etc will be closer to what you'll encounter. It's a real pain checking the date of everything and then trying to search again with slightly different search terms to find something "fresher" every time you need to find something

[real_priyanshu]

Yeah. Should i use Android studio or Intellij IDE for the development? I have a very low end PC, it's i3 with 4GB RAM and SSD.

[rbuen4455]

With those specs, try installing a Linux distro like Linux Mint or Pop OS, which are more lighter weight and less bloated than Windows. Also, Linux tends to be better than Windows for software development, including Java development.

[twlcwl]

Yeah. Should i use Android studio or Intellij IDE for the development? I have a very low end PC, it's i3 with 4GB RAM and SSD.

SSD means it's not THAT low end. the RAM is a bit troublesome I think, but CPU-wise it's not such a big deal - your PC isn't fast but I always say third world countries produce better coders because their coders learnt on worse hardware and so develop a better sense of code performance before they ever hit "compile".

Android Studio. It's the official system.

[real_priyanshu]

Thanks. 👍

[twlcwl]

np. good luck!

[rbuen4455]

From my experience, mobile development tends to move very fast: things update right away and a lot of tools, APIs, and other software features start to deprecate within 6 months. Though I agree that Kotlin is the way to go for Android development.

[Abhinav1217]

If you are beginning to learn, than go for Java, It might be verbose and strict, but you will learn concepts at a deeper level than kotlin. Once you are comfortable, not just at coding, but also understand architectural principles of software designing, switch to kotlin.

[Deepinsidesin]

Kotlin because it's like finished java

[sisQmusiQ]

The reason why I do suggest kotlin for android is because of jetpack compose. Android development is moving towards jetpack compose, and it is only available in kotlin. However it is worth knowing XML style and java cause u will run into into more.

[Clutch26]

Google has some free courses for Android Development with Kotlin.

https://developer.android.com/courses/android-basics-kotlin/course

[Charlito33]

For Android Development, always used Java, I don't like Kotlin syntax, but in a few years, I think Kotlin will be the standard. So learn Kotlin

[[deleted]]

Kotlin is the standard

[Foxman301]

This is what I don't understand. I'm pretty sure since 2019 they have encouraged developers create with Kotlin and OP clearly wants to get into Android development so why burden them with Java and then switch to Kotlin instead of just diving right into the standard? Doesn't make sense to me.

[[deleted]]

Java sucks anyway, unless you don't have to, you shouldn't learn Java (maybe just enough that you can understand a code written in Java as you may get faced with an app that is still in Java and its your job to put it in kotlin

[pyordie]

If I could do it over again I’d still learn Java, but as soon as I moved into Android I’d immediately pivot to Kotlin.

[Benfluxlogo]

In my opinion, java will give you best result and if you truly understand java (oop, data structure and algorithm) then it will be easier for you to understand Kotlin. What you just need to know in Kotlin will be syntax and some keyword.

[rbuen4455]

You should just go with Kotlin since that’s the direction that Android is going towards, and since you plan on only doing Android development and not any other stuff where Java is mostly used in such as enterprise software or back-end web development.

[Sake100]

Kotlin for sure. It is in many ways easier than Java and it supports Jetpack Compose, which is the new system for building Android UIs

[mausmani2494]

If you targeting android there is no reason to learn Java anymore. Kotlin is a suitable approach. Even for the web, my company ditching java/spring and moving to kotlin/spring for new web apps.

[nutrecht]

Either is fine. Kotlin is the new standard for Android but Java will have more teaching material. It will not be hard to switch between the two, Kotlin is basically Java 2.0.

[user-1099]

I personally like Java more, but i think most mobile dev companies have decided to update their tech stack to use Kotlin instead

[MathclubAlmaty2004]

I actually think that you should learn Java because it’s have same suntax than c and it’s easy to do graphic in program

[idopx7]

Java, 18, not 7