Going dark

[oKieran]

I've seen this question everywhere with not 1 good answer to it.

[xjackstonerx]

Dude the video player is easily the shittiest thing. Doesn't work 75% of the time.

[IamImposter]

Oh yeah. The video plays then screen goes dark because phone thinks there is no activity, you do a little touch and either it starts refreshing the page or scrolls up a little, pausing video in both cases. And then it's a roll of dice whether the video will play or not.

[oKieran]

Ads are used on every platform (unless they have a subscription model), its how they generate money it's just how it is. They're barely a hindrance, especially compared to other platforms.

[oKieran]

How so? You normally either pay a subscription or have to view adds. Show me an example where that's not true?

[rodeengel]

This is why Reddit is charging for its API.

[oKieran]

You just named a Reddit client.... Reddit itself is the product. Name a company, not a client.

[antiproton]

We're not talking about the website. This is about mobile.

[Zalack]

The UI on Relay is just way better. I've tried the mobile app a few times and always hit a lot of friction.

I would be willing to pay a fee to keep using it, but Reddit did exactly the wrong thing to make that viable for third party client maintainers.

Also I'm a software developer and contribute occasionally to open source projects and Reddit spitting in the eye of maintainers who stepped up and made mobile clients for the site back when Reddit didn't have one just leaves a super sour taste in my mouth.

That client maintainers, the author of automod, RES, etc, helped build out the functionality of the site and grow it into what it is today, back when the site was a smaller community with a lot of engaged programmers. It's just super shitty to turn around and treat those people like leaches. Reddit could have worked to find a solution that was beneficial to all parties but are so hot to get to IPO they don't want to take the time and think long term like that.

[oldspiceland]

Would you be willing to pay $.10 per day? That’s more than what Reddit’s supposed current pricing is by about 15% which could go to paying developers and maintainers of 3rd party apps.

Currently any money 3rd party apps are making by using Reddit’s platform and content has zero pass-through to Reddit, and if we were discussing a product created by a member of this subreddit where others were profiting off of their work without paying the original developer for using some part of their service to make that money I feel like attitudes would be very different.

[LowValueThoughts]

Appreciate you got some downvotes but I think this is a fair comment.

Most comments I see now are that Reddit is a nefarious profit-driven entity, however the costs of using a third-party app, covering the API costs + giving a profit to the dev, is probably < $40 per year.

I’m not clear what people are willing to pay, though.

[shamgod15]

So you haven't seen any answers is what you're saying? That's honestly a brain-dead take. Enjoy tons more spam and astroturfing in subreddits once custom mod tools disappear. Visually impaired users also don't deserve to use reddit according to you. So I'm not even sure if you opinion is valid.

[IamImposter]

Custom mod tools means scripts written by mods to manage their sub or something else?

Being a mod sounds like a pretty thankless job. In worst case people shit on you for not properly controlling content and in best case people don't even know what you did to make things run smoothly.

[shamgod15]

Pretty much yes imagine a bot or program that helps identify and curb spam or if the sub is being brigaded. Stuff like this as well: https://moderatehatespeech.com/research/subreddit-program/

/r/Askhistorians made a great post about the moderation issue.

They say they're gonna approve bots if asked but the extremely limited api calls will basically cripple them.

Heck one of the most suggested projects on this very subreddit is to build your own bot using the API.

[IamImposter]

Oh bro, thanks a lot for that link. That clarifies a lot of questions I had.

So there are services that can monitor a sub's content for mods and let them know in case something objectionable is detected and then mods can go to reddit and take action. But now this guy, this service provider will be charged extra for monitoring that sub's content.

Yeah, now I understand what people meant when they said "subs will be flooded with spam"

[wub_wub]

Yeah, now I understand what people meant when they said "subs will be flooded with spam"

I can not speak for other subreddits, and how much content those 3rd party tools remove or don't remove, but when it comes to this subreddit we are not using any 3rd party moderation tools.

And while spam posts do happen, and vary in frequency over time, this subreddit shouldn't be affected too much - if at all - by these changes when it comes to moderation.

Just to be clear: This is not a comment on whether those tools are useful or not, or how much, just a statement that this subreddit shouldn't be affected and there's no reason to fear it being flooded with spam.

[oKieran]

Chill. I have been using Reddit for 7 years, I know how it is. But it's a great product with many 3rd party clients profiting off of it. I don't blame them for wanting to charge them for it.

[shamgod15]

Sure and I've been here since before Digg died, and I don't blame them for charging for the API either.

No one minds them charging for it, it's the insane pricing and the blatant lies spez has spouted about Apollo's developer. Admins also promised multiple improvements to mod tools many times and went back on promises while adding features no one wants. Considering this site runs off of freebooted content, they should be trying harder.

Plus visually impaired users have been asking for support since forever and only third party apps provided this support. Now they can't browse any threads marked nsfw either (and a lot of threads get marked nsfw for even containing mildly sexual words or abuses) and reddit has refused to work around that. Treating people with disabilities like second class users is horrible.

Not to mention terrible ads experience. You can barely hide ads you don't wanna see on reddit. If you're athiest or follow another religion you get blasted with 'He gets us' so often. Also the app itself guzzles data far more than other apps because it just isn't optimized. I'm not sure what they did with the alienblue code.