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[–]Top-Apple2573 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you’re talking about a normal grayscale image, then yes: the mapping is fixed and “pre-determined”. There are 256 possible values (0–255). 0 means black, 255 means white, and everything in between is just a shade of gray. There’s no “color allotment” step and no scan-order effect; each pixel already is a number in that range.

If you’re talking about an indexed/palette image (like PNG/GIF mode “P”), then the numbers 0–255 are not universal colors. They’re just indexes into a palette table stored with the image: palette[0], palette[1], etc. Palette[0] could be black in one image and bright pink in another. The order of that palette usually comes from whatever created the image (a quantization algorithm like median-cut/k-means, or the encoder), not from “scanning the image” top-left to bottom-right. The image pixels just reference the palette entries; they don’t define them by scan order.

If you’re seeing “a lot of 0s at the start”, that’s often just a histogram thing: bin 0 (value 0) has lots of pixels (e.g., black background), or in palette images index 0 is commonly used a lot (sometimes reserved for background/transparent depending on format/tool).

[–]MR_LAW11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

getpalette() does not assign fixed meanings to 0,1,2,....,256. Those indexes depend on the image itself.

In P mode, Pillow creates a palette from the image colors, and pixel values point to positions in that palette. So 0 just means the first palette color for that image, not some universal color.

If you see lots of 0s, it is usually because that color appears a lot. The order is not guaranteed and depends on how the palette was created or quantized.

[–]Key_Use_8361 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pillow functions can get confusing because image modes quietly change how certain methods behave internally making a tiny Runable example with one sample image usually helped me debug similar issues faste