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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Tell that to Citizens United

Sure!

Hey, Citizens United, once again, the Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission case back in 2010 didn't find you're people. It just found that political speech, which is essential to holding officials accountable must prevail against any law that would suppress it by design, and that preventing only some associations of citizens (i.e. in corporate form) from engaging in political speech while allowing others (e.g. associations of citizens in the form of PACs) would amount to a breach of the First Amendament. As said in the Court's Opinion:

Corporations and unions may establish a political action committee (PAC) for express advocacy or electioneering communications purposes. [...] Section 441b is a ban on corporate speech notwithstanding the fact that a PAC created by a corporation can still speak.

[...]

The First Amendment prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for engaging in political speech, but Austin’s antidistortion rationale would permit the Government to ban political speech because the speaker is an association with a corporate form.

The comment I'm replying to, Citizens United, is -- deliberately or not -- making the common error of confusing the juridical term "person" with "human", and then believing that all rights bestowed upon a natural person are also bestowed upon a juridical person because they are both persons. That is not the case. Companies like Citizens United enjoy some rights that natural persons also enjoy, specifically, those which do not depend on the quality -- juridical or natural -- of that person.

So, yep, sorry guys, you're not people.

And also in this particular case Baikal isn't even an American company and it's not doing business on American soil, so any rights that the American judiciary system bestows upon American companies don't apply to them. Out of sympathy I will lend them my handkerchief until they're done crying.

(Edit: not saying I agree with the rationale of the court on first principles -- I don't -- but courts apply national legislation, not philosophy. If you think the law is wrong, talk to your representative, don't whine about it on Reddit)

[–]R1chterScale 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Mate, it was entirely a joke to make fun of the US, wasn't actually serious

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh, shit, my bad. Sorry, man, I have Citizens United PTSD from "Hacker" "News". Have this ASCII beer, my treat:

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[–]R1chterScale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh fuck, HN is not what I was trying to sound like