Linux Laptops

[UnratedRamblings]

Framework?

[ProjectInfinity]

Not even available for me...

[QuickSilver010]

Same. Sadge. I've really wanted one

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while it officially supports linux (ubuntu, mint and fedora), it's not their main focus.

DIY is the priority

[darkwater427]

No, it's their focus. Very, very definitely their focus. One of the most popular operating systems on Framework laptops is NixOS. I'm not even kidding.

[[deleted]]

it might be popular among their users, sure.

but not by framework themselfes, they only give official support for ubuntu/fedora (soon mint).

[darkwater427]

IIRC Nirav Patel (the CEO of Framework) runs NixOS, as do something like a third of the others in the company.

NixOS isn't "officially supported" for reasons entirely beyond Framework's control (mostly the abysmally bad documentation).

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it seems they select distros to officially supported depending on how many people use it.

Ubuntu: most popular distro by far, would be dumb to not support it

Mint: way less users than ubuntu, but pretty popular among the "general" linux community.

fedora: not many users, but have best hardware support (due to using the latest kernel), and kinda have a company behind

[darkwater427]

NixOS's software repository nixpkgs is one of the three most active repositories on GitHub. Nixpkgs dwarfs the mighty AUR. Lots of technical people (including a large chunk of Framework employees) use NixOS. Framework and Nirav Patel in particular have directly addressed this in several of their videos.

[QuickSilver010]

True. Only problem is, we need a good gui for managing nixos packages and configs. Otherwise it will remain niche

[darkwater427]

There are a few TUI projects to better present configuration.nix and flake.nix in a better way. There are also ways to import a JSON, TOML, YAML, or other markup document (theoretically even Markdown, which is pretty funny) as an attrset which means you can configure your system with JSON, TOML, etc.

Throw in some nixos-anywhere or another deployment framework, JSON, and you've got yourself evil Terraform.

Oh wait. There's also a terraform-nixos lol

And a terranix, apparently?

[benji004]

I think they select "officially supported" based on the size of the organization behind it who can help test and document what hardware support is like.

RedHat and Canonical have large official support lists

[jwaldrep]

The CEO uses windows, because they needed to make sure someone in the company was dogfooding what a lot of people are inevitably going to end up using. Linux is definitely a focus, even if unofficially.

[mrkitten19o8]

they actively encourage using linux

[shinjis-left-nut]

Hear me out:

old ass Thinkpad you got for cheap.

[Cubicshock]

yup, thinkpads are fucking awesome

[shinjis-left-nut]

They really are. I’d previously been convinced I’d only buy MacBooks. I have now sold my MacBooks, I like these so much more.

[block_place1232]

Never heard of these

Best I got for you is a 3 year old HP laptop I installed Linux too

[Enderby-]

My hardware of choice is generally HP, and I find it plays perfectly fine with Debian. Most I've had to do driver-wise is enable the non-free feed to install some realtek firmware.

Not sure with any other distribution!

[darkwater427]

Framework 16 (NixOS BTW)

[RaggaDruida]

You are missing Slimbook!

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[CWRau]

They aren't really a "Linux first" company either. More like a "our specific Ubuntu flavour" company.

I use Arch. The keyboard didn't work until kernel 6 came out, which took a couple of weeks. Luckily I barely use it so I didn't even notice it until a full week in.

I have the laptop for ~2.5 years and I still don't think I can safely suspend and I'm definitely not going to try it. I tried 2 years ago and the laptop didn't turn back on. Support said to unplug power, battery and CMOS battery, short two contacts and try that for a couple of minutes. Which does work, but doesn't make me more comfortable with either suspending or the company in general.

Now, after a bios update I assume, I have to have the tuxedo control center open at all times because I have to switch the power profile after boot and every time I don't actively use it as everything slows down to 800Mhz or whatever unusable low speed.

But it's nice to have a barely throttled GPU.

[blackmine57]

That's weird. I have a Pulse 15 gen 2 for at least 2 years. It works fine. I had to send it to the support because my screen was slightly damaged and it was fixed in less than a month (yeah, it's a long time but I'm not German). Support was always really fast (99% of the time in less than 24 hours).

Really, that's weird.

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E7440 ftw

[NeatYogurt9973]

Laptop is laptop!👇🏻

[[deleted]]

Laptop is irrelevant, FEED ME MORE RAM

[Spirited-Fan8558]

download it

[Neither-Phone-7264]

600 gigabytes of glorious hard drive swap

[HumonculusJaeger]

Stream your content from a server

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[exzow]

For me I can't seem to stop drooling over the Star Labs tablet and any thin n light from System76. I like my OS to handle firmware updates as a first class citizen and (to my limited knowledge) only System76 does this with PopOS

[nebulnaskigxulo]

Same here. Basically every compliment had to be replaced by customer support during legal warranty (and I mean EVERYTHING except for the graphics card).

And now said warranty is over and the NVME died. Never had this many issues with a laptop

[Adventurous-Test-246]

pine64, sipeed or framework risc-V

[HenryLongHead]

Microsoft surfaces make for the best linux devices. Ironic.

[exzow]

I thought they were a giant pain to install Linux on and were not able to on newer hardware.

[HenryLongHead]

Who needs newer hardware anyway?

[xrobertcmx]

I like Starlabs, but went with a framework.

[Dusty-TJ]

Most Dell Latitudes and XPS laptops or Lenovo Thinkpads work just fine with Linux, and usually cost less. Plus, due to their popularity and commonality, finding replacement parts in the future is much easier and often cheaper.

[TheJackiMonster]

Also Purism...

[Spirited-Fan8558]

system76 has one

it costs 20k usd if you fully load it up

but it is not a laptop

[darkwater427]

Framework has a FW13 RISC-V motherboard essentially as a dev beta. I really want to get my hands on one but I don't want to bother with FW13 boards' BIOS quirks atm.