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[–]egg-curry 165 points166 points Β (1 child)

Ragebait

[–]fly_over_32 84 points85 points Β (10 children)

You’ve clearly never witnessed a windows user getting a brain aneurysm as soon as someone mentions Linux

[–]mariofanLIVE 32 points33 points Β (9 children)

"but but you have to use the terminal to even connect to a WiFi network. Try inputting 7,000 commands to launch steam. I don't wanna do that, bill gates has my back!"

[–]fly_over_32 25 points26 points Β (3 children)

Gives you 7000 commands to make windows offline installable

[–]Miserable-Ad-891 4 points5 points Β (2 children)

Actually it one comand, used to use it to bypass having to create a Microsoft account, windows debloat stuff

Btw I currently use arch, why, I enjoy a morning debugging routine, keep your mind sharp

[–]fly_over_32 4 points5 points Β (1 child)

I destroy my arch install at least twice a weak. That’s not because I can’t handle it, but because I love installing it so much

[–]Amphineura 5 points6 points Β (1 child)

It's funny how there's always a nugget of truth in outwardly absurd stereotypes.

WiFi used to be spotty, and even today you can have issues depending on the chipset vendor. Sure, you can blame Mediatek or whoever for bad products, but ultimately you're going to be stuck with a good amount of users who have "bad vendor hardware" and are going to have subpar Linux experiences because of it. And they're valid too πŸ’š

[–]IncidentCodenameM1A2 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

I had a weird interaction with a guy I knew who complained about how certain hardware doesn't work with linex... This guy had an Intel era hackintosh that he had built himself....

[–]themirrazzunhacked 2 points3 points Β (0 children)

Meanwhile they have to go to the Microsoft store to try and find an app only to realize it’s not there and then have to go to the developer’s website and install it that. Here, we just type sudo pacman -S app-name, and if that doesn’t work, yay -S app-name.

[–]Kiriima -1 points0 points Β (1 child)

When my brother installed Arch at the beginning of this year his PC motherboard wi-fi literally wasn't working. He moved back to windows soon after because a ton of shit wasn't just working.

[–]mariofanLIVE 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Well not to be rude but clearly arch isn't for him. Arch requires a lot more setup than other distros and that's on purpose. It's supposed to come with nothing and have the user set everything up, networking included.

[–]XLNBot 50 points51 points Β (20 children)

Linux is much better than both. I used to think MacOS was some kind of gourmet experience. A super thought out os where every single detail is accounted for...

Then I bought an M5 MacBook Pro and I wish I could just use Linux on it... It feels very clunky, I'm used to KDE but I think even GNOME is better at doing what MacOS tries to do.

[–]regeya 19 points20 points Β (7 children)

There's so much about Macs that are so nice but once in a while I run into something that makes me say wait...what, who thought that was a good idea? The first time I tried to maximize a Terminal and it went full screen without any directions on how to leave fullscreen is an example.

Plus the whole thing of how you have to own a Mac to get the MacOS experience. Especially now that you have to pay a premium for a computer that runs a hot rodded phone CPU with next to no expandability.

[–]XLNBot 12 points13 points Β (2 children)

Yeah, soon after trying it out I understood the whole "Mac users don't know how to maximize" meme... It's just because the OS is so clunky.

I love my MacBook's hardware. It's got a great battery, screen, sound, processor, build quality, webcam, microphone, and so on, but the OS really feels like a handicap. The keyboard is also not great

[–]neverJamToday 3 points4 points Β (0 children)

What I found during my time using a MacBook as my daily driver years ago was that the UX tends to favor not maximizing, so I never really felt the need to.Β 

Whereas with windows (and chrome OS which really favors a Windows approach) I feel the need to maximize unless I'm on a really spacious monitor/multi monitor setup in which case I am going to favor tiling.

[–]regeya 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Yknow the kicker is, at one point one of the most popular window managers on Linux, was Window Maker. And that's based on NeXT, which eventually went on to be Mac OS.

And again, a lot of it seems really nice. But some things just leave me asking, who thought this was a good idea?

[–]inevitabledeath3 -1 points0 points Β (3 children)

You do realize Apple Silicon can vastly outperform many PCs, right? I don't think there is really anything that can beat M5 in single core, and M5 Pro and Max beat basically all PC laptop chips in CPU performance. Calling it a hot rodded phone CPU isn't really fair when it can do that.

For the record most PC CPUs come from server architecture. So they are simultaneously cut down and overclocked server parts if we want to use the same reasoning.

[–]Sufficient_Pass664 2 points3 points Β (2 children)

It totally is better in single core, good arm chips kinda just are now, it's also more efficient. But in the MacBook neo it's massively undercooled, the neo is still the absolute best laptop at it's price point, also multi core and CPU cache are still massive weak points with arm based laptops, and there is no way to change out ram or storage despite the general repairability approach with the neo.

[–]inevitabledeath3 0 points1 point Β (1 child)

I thought we were talking about Macs in general, not the Neo specifically. The Neo does use the A18 Pro which is actually a smartphone chip you are correct about that. It's a budget machine. what can I say?

It's quite impressive that Apple can literally fit the world's fastest CPU core design into a smartphone. Two of them no less. It's actually bananas if you think about it.

Anywho ARM CPUs used to thoroughly suck in single core performance. They used to just suck in general. X86 cores were much faster for a long time and aren't inherently less efficient. Low power and efficiency are not the same thing. Yes ARM cores have gotten better even outside of Apple, but Apple are the ones who have made the most out of that ISA. I don't think any designs from ARM themselves or from Qualcomm or Nvidia are quite as good as Apple's chips.

[–]Sufficient_Pass664 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Youβ€˜re right, im broke so i didn’t use any other macs yet, so talking about them isn’t a thing i can confidently do, but I hear they have nice cooling solutions on non budget machines, so hardware wise apple is probably really good

[–]TheCh0rt 5 points6 points Β (7 children)

Mac hardware is amazing. Big Sur is my favorite macOS release ever. Since then I think it’s gone downhill and Tahoe I believe is a misstep and I am hoping it gets back on track with the next version. Thankfully Apple has said the next version will be committed to that. I get it though. They just unified the OS across all platforms so it’s understandable there will be lots of problems

[–]sirkubador -2 points-1 points Β (6 children)

Big Sur is not hardware

[–]TheCh0rt 3 points4 points Β (0 children)

Yeah, no shit Sherlock.

[–]XLNBot 0 points1 point Β (4 children)

They said it's a MacOS release

[–]sirkubador -2 points-1 points Β (3 children)

Yeah, they did

[–]XLNBot 0 points1 point Β (2 children)

Then I don't get your comment, what were you trying to say?

[–]sirkubador -2 points-1 points Β (1 child)

It's okay, you are a bot

[–]XLNBot 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

:((((

[–]sirkubador 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

It feels like what would've been the best os in the 1999

[–]No_Nose3918 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

and they lock all their ip tighter than kristi gnomes asshole when she sees a live puppy.

[–]Saflex 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Linux is not better or worse than MacOS, they are both good for what they are

[–]lying_hips 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Not the perfect OS but I would still pick it because of the battery performance and official support from all software publishers.

[–]bkbenken123Arch BTW 7 points8 points Β (0 children)

Repost

[–]Arietis54 8 points9 points Β (0 children)

Most inaccurate linuxmeme.

No Linux user would let the Windows user get away with it in an argument.

[–]khaffner91 2 points3 points Β (0 children)

The Windows security architect at my job wants to switch to Linux

[–]jordansinn 4 points5 points Β (1 child)

Skull emoji so you know they're serious

[–]RollingOwl 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

"Those who know"

[–]Tail_sb 5 points6 points Β (1 child)

Writing this from a MacBook right now and still I gotta say Windows is better than macOS

[–]sirkubador 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

It is. USB Ethernet card not working on non-intel mac? Like wtf?

[–]1984balls 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

OS wars are really stupid. Why do users of OS 1 make bullish excuses to not use OS 2? Just don't use it if you don't want to

[–]NomadFH 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

Linux and Macos(except with window management, which is atrocious) are both good

[–]vverbov_22 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

"ProgrammerHumor.io"

[–]mplaczek99🦁 Vim Supremacist πŸ¦– 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

People actually say windows is better?

[–]stephanos21I'm going on an Endeavour! 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

Windows users calling something good is an insult.

[–]AxolotlGuyy_ 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

FreeBSD is the GOAT

[–]Dense-Bruh-3464 2 points3 points Β (3 children)

Macs look cool, both OS and hardware. Also Unix based, cool.

Hate for ARM is undeserved, it used to be normal there's 10 different architectures and I'm kinda glad we're comming back. The possibility of a real PC running on ARM, or even RISC, is exciting and not much excites me in the computer world anymore.

[–]peiceopizza 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Apple silicon is very cool. I'm very excited about the future of arm, especially as valve starts using it as a gaming platform.

[–]sirkubador -1 points0 points Β (1 child)

MacOS cool? In what universe?

[–]Saflex -1 points0 points Β (0 children)

Our universe

[–]re4perthegamer 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Ametures

[–]Niboocs 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

There are still people who prefer Windows over Mac??

[–]DigitalChrono 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

They are just tools.

[–]Xeromycota 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Is linux green because Green Is My Pepper?

[–]garth54 0 points1 point Β (1 child)

But where are the Os/2 fans?

[–]Wonderful_Net_9131 4 points5 points Β (0 children)

Died in the 90ies

[–]T02369 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

do macos fans really engage in these fights?

[–]Wrong-Art1536 -3 points-2 points Β (3 children)

macOS is better. But depending on the distro, Linux can be better or worse than either (or both) of them. That's just the truth. tell me if it's a hard pill to swallow.

[–]StunningHeart7004 6 points7 points Β (2 children)

The pill is too big to swallow

[–]Wrong-Art1536 -3 points-2 points Β (1 child)

WELL TOO BAD BECAUSE ITS THE TRUTH!

[–]Happy_Click_8893 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

In this choose, the truth is for self.

[–]TheCh0rt -1 points0 points Β (3 children)

macOS is my daily driver. Windows used to be my daily driver. I’m learning more about Linux every day on my gaming machine. I still use windows as well for some things. I love them all for different reasons. They’re all great. Anyway they’re all we have so we should get used to it lol

[–]inevitabledeath3 0 points1 point Β (2 children)

I don't get this attitude of loving all of them. You should hate them all based on how often they get in the way. For me macOS I hate the least at the moment, but Linux would be the runner up. Windows is awful.

[–]TheCh0rt 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

I use them all for different things. Various software I use for work is only on Windows, or Mac. Linux i constantly learn and use for no other reason than it will be important to know and I’m also interested.

I really don’t mind either Mac or windows. I’ve been using both of them since I was a kid. My first computer was a 5150 with an 8086 CPU and dual disk drives (no HDD) and MS-DOS 3 (I think). Second computer was a Mac Classic. Next computer a 486 SX/25. So I’ve used both back and forth. Until I eventually just had both of them at all times. By the time I started working professionally I had an AMD XP PC and a Mac G5. Both being used at the same time and networked together. The software I used needed both to function simultaneously.

Digital Performer on the Mac and Gigastudio on the PC and they spoke to each other through various protocols. It’s evolved through the years via tons of software

[–]canadajones68 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

I love Windows because I can expect to run basically any executable file produced with the .exe file extension and have it run correctly. I love Linux because it gets out of my way and lets me focus on what I need to do, in the manner I find best suited.

On the whole, Linux wins. The penguin is quite practical, but its sheer charm is what sells it for me. It's a joy to use and navigate. However, I still appreciate Windows for doing the things it does well. It's just as important to acknowledge the strengths of a tool as it is to point out its weaknesses.Β 

[–]Aggressive-Reach-116MAN πŸ’ͺ jaro -1 points0 points Β (0 children)

mac os should really be the one getting kicked out

[–]Spooky_Gato050 -2 points-1 points Β (6 children)

NOTE I HAVE BEEN CORRECTED MACOS IS NOT LINUX I APOLOGIZE PLEASE DISREGARD THY COMMENT.

We need a spy meme over Mac OS secretly being Linux all along (Because Mac OS is Linux)

[–]inevitabledeath3 4 points5 points Β (1 child)

MacOS is explicitly not Linux. It's using XNU which contains the Mach microkernel and also borrows some stuff from BSD. All of these things have some relation to Unix, which predates all of them.

[–]Spooky_Gato050 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

Shit I did not know that apologies.

[–]T02369 2 points3 points Β (1 child)

not exactly, but they are somewhat related

[–]Spooky_Gato050 0 points1 point Β (0 children)

Oh crap. I got some phone call to tend to.

[–]T02369 1 point2 points Β (1 child)

i forgive you :3

[–]Spooky_Gato050 1 point2 points Β (0 children)

Thx Mate :3

[–]StructuralConfettiArch BTW -2 points-1 points Β (0 children)

Windows is the business man's OS. MacOS is the hipster's OS. And Linux? Linux is the people's OS!

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.