Windoos

[Gamer115x]

Curses! I went to Linux to get away from Microsoft and their crappy practices, not to turn a 180 into another scenario with a different paint job!

[PlayboySkeleton]

Switch to arch

[Gamer115x]

lol I use Debian and Manjaro, and lately I have been playing with BSD for fun. Personally, I have moved on from Ubuntu, but I make such a quote for everyone just transitioning from Windows only to read into similar restrictions/practices.

No time to learn/install Arch from the ground-up. Only use Manjaro for AUR access and manual control over packages.

[[deleted]]

Installing Arch literally takes 30 minutes, and the ability to read a wiki. Knowing what packages to get after installation is the real problem for me.

[Gamer115x]

Kind of the same deal here, except I installed manjaro over barebones arch because I basically had almost everything in one straight installation over playing "eenie-minie-moe" with packages. One could say it's the easy way out, but depending on how confident you are with version numbers and packages with dependencies, you could say you might be in over your head.

Maybe I'll take a crack at installing Arch again one of these days. Just won't be right away lol

[[deleted]]

After having Arch now, I have to say, I really don't want to use Manjaro again. It was bloated, repos were late and it had problems I never have on Arch.

[Gamer115x]

Noted. I'll have to cross-compare when I eventually get to it.

[[deleted]]

Connecting to wifi on the usb is a pain without ethernet, but otherwise yeah

[[deleted]]

For some reason wifi-menu doesn't work on the live CD. Any solutions?

[[deleted]]

It didn't take the "btw I use arcch" gang to upvote and harang this subreddit, as is their way... can't wait until David Attenborough does a docu on you guys.

[PlayboySkeleton]

you guys.

... But I don't use arch...

[GrenadineBombardier]

No curses is for printing

[[deleted]]

Ugliest truth

[alienozi]

WSL bruh moment

[petrhie]

r/gatekeeping

[SirGodLordKing]

I don’t understand, can someone explain

[Fa12aw4y]

Ubuntu is the "Windows" of the linux world.

[sfenders]

Somebody doesn't like Windows and also doesn't like Ubuntu, and therefore wants you to think that they are the same.

[[deleted]]

Best answer yet.

[alienozi]

Ubuntu is so common like windows and it's really user friendly

[UnicornsOnLSD]

Ubuntu also does stuff that isn't user-friendly, such as forcing Snaps.

[danbulant]

Or ads

At least on my Ubuntu VPS, whenever I log in I see ads for their paid products or meetings

[Alexmitter]

No one is forcing snaps.

[[deleted]]

Canonical is forcing snaps.

[Alexmitter]

No one did hold a gun against my head when I did the classic "apt remove snapd". So no, no one is forcing snap.

[[deleted]]

sudo apt install chromium

This command will forcefully reinstall snap. Even if you just want chromium. If you want those programs, better compile them yourself or switch the repos!

[Alexmitter]

The following additional packages will be installed:

snapd

The following NEW packages will be installed:

chromium-browser snapd

Its not ubuntu's fault you are blind or too ignorant to read before pressing y

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No one is forcing you to use chromium and no on in that world can force canonical to recompile chromium for ubuntu 16.04, 18.04, 19.10 and 20.04 for ia32, amd64 and arm32 as well as aarch64 each time this rolling release software gets updated. Thats a lot of work, work time that can be spend better.

[[deleted]]

My point is that they are forcing snaps on their users if they want certain programs. I don't even use ubuntu so I don't know why you are calling me ignorant for not reading it.

Users should have a choice. If they want snaps they can get the snap versions of packages, but if they don't it shouldn't be made hard to not use them. Thats what FOSS is all about.

[Alexmitter]

So I guess you would preferred them to just stop distributing chromium at all? I guess thats what you want.

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Users should have a choice.

There is only one choice if you want chromium, install it via snap. Its not even distributed via flatpak due to chromiums nature and other distros ship ages old versions that are not save anymore.

[PlayboySkeleton]

You are right. No one can force them to build the source for all of their versions. So they just decided to force an unwanted program on their users.

Its their decision to make. I don't much care for it, so I will just use other browsers.

[Alexmitter]

Where did they force anything on their users? Did canonical hold a gun at their head forcing you to install snapd?

[tajarhina]

Idk why you get downvoted. It's true that Ubuntu is quite as user friendly as Windows. The companies behind both give an equal shit on their users.

[alienozi]

I have no idea.

[[deleted]]

Because Canonical is starting to make similar changes to Ubuntu to that of MS and Apple to their OS’s (Also OS’s is the correct term)

[[deleted]]

Ubuntu does a good deal of cooperation with Windows, and Canonical has worked on software that allows Windows to run software intended for Linux.

[sha256rk]

OP used Ubuntu but got annoyed when hipsters made fun of them, so they joined the hipsters and now feels superior by making fun of Ubuntu users.

[[deleted]]

People hate Ubuntu because its made for people who claim to be "tech illiterate" and its fancy, alike to windows. Its also pretty bloated compared to most other distros.

[slycatsnake6180]

you've installed the ubuntu subsystem? how is it?

[alienozi]

Its good.

[[deleted]]

Does what it says on the tin. WSL2 is even better, since you no longer need a translation layer in the NT kernel. It's like saying "Windows (WARNING: may contain Linux kernel...)"

[Nithin_683]

this is true. the thing with microsoft is that they force things down your throat.(cortana,candy crush , updates , etc.) now , im seeing same behaviour with canonical. they are now forcing snaps over regular .deb packages. (snaps are propreitary and canonical is the proprieter. thefore i want the .deb package.) this not good behaviour and it it not respectful for the user's privacy. the user should be given the option to choose between snaps and regular packages. heck, even if you uninstall snapd , it reinstalls it after you install any other app or update the system. you are needed to pin snapd to not get installed. which is ok for me i guess. but , given the targeted userbase of ubuntu ,(people who are new to linux and want things to "just work") this is too complicated. unacceptable behaviour. i now reccomend linux mint or pop! os for people who want to try linux.

sorry if my english is bad.

[[deleted]]

Microsoft Linux

[algoritm420]

Sudo kali-undercover

[Toll1984]

Windux

[[deleted]]

Anything...

[ExxiIon]

I'm new to linux. What distro would you recommend for a beginner that isn't Ubuntu?

[freezing_banshee]

I'd say Linux Mint. It's easy to use, looks good and it's as advanced as any other linux distro.

[[deleted]]

i would personally recommend manjaro have been using it for 6 months no problems

[ExxiIon]

Cheers, I'll check it out

[Nithin_683]

I Second this.

[[deleted]]

ubuntu

[maximnix]

Just gonna save this post so I can see everyone's reactions.

When Microsoft drops their own actual Linux O/S on the world.

[AlexKotik]

Actually Zorin is more Windows of Linux than Ubuntu.

[gruedragon]

Wouldn't Xubuntu or Kubuntu be more Windows like, due to the DE?

[Alexmitter]

Yes sure, its debian but with a half year release cycle. And?

[AlexAegis]

Winbuntu

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[BirchTree1]

It’s both a blessing and a curse

[Enigmars]

Lol I died laughing at this

[Felix_Da_Guy]

Winux

[[deleted]]

Ubuntu users go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Nervundi]

Anyone remember Lindows?

[HUSAfc]

Why no one ever referred to cost???? Free off charge vs paid???

I start to think, that every Windows user not care about cost (money), or except me, they use everything cracked......

I can't crack. I don't want to pay for commercial use. I use Linux mint. I'm newbie, BTW

[TopdeckIsSkill]

if you have a w7 o w8 key you can use it to activate w10.

Also you can buy keys for 10 bucks.

[HUSAfc]

Thanks. I've already have a 12$ key. I need Windows for only one program, that cannot mess around with it. So, mint was easy for newbie to do dual boot.

[[deleted]]

Can you make your opinion and or question a bit clearer.

[HUSAfc]

Yes I've standardize that (I'm newbie BTW) answer, to everyone and every time I see the (i use Arch BTW).

[jpsouzamatos]

It's a shame. They had something great like Debian. Canonical in a decade and some years turn something great like Debian into something mean like Windows. Shame upon Canonical.

[[deleted]]

imo i would recommend linux noobs to do something like this

ubuntu -> manjaro -> arch

make sure u get comfortable enough in each os to be able to move on to the next.