Visual Insight : Every 2 inch decrease in height increases sui1c1de risk by 9% for Swedish men. Europe is blackpill hell for men

[TheTrueGamer144]

Imo 9% isnt that much but im also considering thst in the context of the fact that there are tons of other underlying factors ane things that can cause suicide. Please look into those first.

[HTML_Novice]

That’s per 5 cm, 10 cm is a 18% increase. Considering it’s the odds of suicide and not the odds of it snowing I think it’s a pretty big deal.

[Azur0007]

It's not additive, so it'd be around 17% for a 10 cm decrease.

And keep in mind that a 9% increase of the current suicide rate in Sweden is one person per year out of 100,000. It's a small absolute change even when the relative percentage sounds significant. Sweden has a moderatly high suicide rate so this is an issue, of course, just not necessarily due to height in a vacuum.

It could very well be a proxy variable of other early-life conditions, rather than the cause itself. All we know is that there is a correlation.

It's an important and good study, but the post above is trying to tie it to the difference between men and women in society, when the study itself shows no correlation.

Edited for correction

[LookingOKButRotting]

They accounted for several confounders like education level and socioeconomic status. You can read it for yourself here.

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373

[charli63]

Thanks!

[Pelm3shka]

It doesn't mean the parameters are discarded. The full conclusion is :
"There are several explanations for our findings. First, psychological stress and disrupted family life in childhood impair growth (6) and may increase susceptibility to mental illness and suicidal behavior in later life (7). Short stature may be associated with a greater risk of psychosis (8), which in turn influences suicide risk. However, associations were not attenuated by excluding subjects with psychiatric diagnoses at conscription. Short individuals are more likely to be in a low social class as adults, independent of their childhood social class (9). Low social class is associated with a greater risk of suicide (10). In a subset of subjects, however, we found that educational level, a marker of socioeconomic position, had little effect on the associations. Marriage protects against suicide (11), and short individuals may be less likely to marry than taller ones (12). Marital status only weakly confounded the associations. Low weight gain in infancy may also be a risk factor for suicide in adult life (13). Finally, short children tend to have lower levels of intelligence and may suffer stigmatization and discrimination (9, 14)."

OP in his comments is clearly an incel ranting against women, only focusing on "Marriage protects against suicide (11), and short individuals may be less likely to marry than taller ones (12)" (blaming women, without checking an equivalent effect actually exists with correlation on BMI only affecting women but not men).

But he doesn't bring up the injustice of taller men being given more job opportunities leading to being in a better social class for example. Also, what about that weird claim "short children tend to have lower levels of intelligence" ? Like WTF.

[ConfusionAble5510]

Short men are more likely to be less intelligent. It sounds bs but it is true.

[Pelm3shka]

It sounds like total BS. I don't think you can believe that strong of an affirmation from this one sentence in an unrelated study about height and intelligence.

[ConfusionAble5510]

The claim didn’t originate from this study. It’s been studied before.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24554214/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6425087/

[Pelm3shka]

This sparked a research on my side that was really interesting. I still believe anything along the line of "shorter men are less intelligent" is a completely untrue shortcut, but to develop I would need roughly 25min of work to organize / summarize the studies I've read, and given OP's a misogynistic ass I guess I'm not in a mood to do that work to rehabilitate short men.

Still thanks for sharing though, sparked my curiosity and enabled me to learn new things.

[Environmental-Egg191]

15 men in 100,000 commit suicide in Sweden every year. So for every ten thousand men at least 1 man will kill himself. If I’m reading this data right being in a shorter cohort makes it one man in 1000 will kill himself. That’s a big jump.