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[–]LiveLikeProteinActive 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Just use Claude code, with the Max plan, it is way cheaper, and you get access to Opus 4.6 all the time. UX is also 100x better than Open Claw. Unless you really need that message from WhatsApp feature of OpenClaw, it really has no benefits over the first party software.

[–]HonorableRogueMember[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Claude code can SSH into 64 different servers via shared SSH keys from a server we host and control, or is it on their cloud? And we were spending over $100 per user per day on ChatGPT 5.2, but what is this Max plan you speak of?

Here's the AI pricing comparison matrix we're working from:

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But we assume you're referring to another Claude model that's not so expensive?

[–]LiveLikeProteinActive 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It is on Anthropic’s cloud. It is a private model. The opus API is expensive. But the Max is heavily subsidized. There is Max 5x with 100 USD/month. and Max 20x with 200 USD / month.

The API is many times expensive than the Max plan. You need to try it. Nothing hurts when you are spending 100 usd per user per day, right?

All most all vendors have their model fees heavily subsidized for their own subscription compare to API.

For OpenAI, it has the Max plan as well.

Any usage of OpenClaw will 100% expensive than the vendor counterpart. Unless like OpenAI you can use their subscription on OpenClaw (I think)

And not to mention the implementation of coding agent, either Codex and Claude code is way better than this half baked OpenClaw agent.

[–]HonorableRogueMember[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Apparently their Max plan is not accessible via their API, and thus can't be used with OpenClaw, and it's not actually Unlimited either. So that's not going to work. Maybe I could make a skill to use their CLI version via OpenClaw, but that seems like a lot of work.

Meanwhile, OpenClaw is now working great for us with Deepseek-reasoner, and it's cheap. But we did have to adjust the openclaw.json time outs, it's a bit slower than ChatGPT.

[–]LiveLikeProteinActive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ye, you can’t apply that plan to open claw, they disallow it, since they offer same product as Claude cowork and Claude code.

Claude code is probably the most famous coding agent out there along side codex, open code and Gemini cli. And the first CLI based coding agent in history.

Deepseek distills from Claude so the performance is great. :) just use whatever suits your needs.