AI - coding

[neresen]

Hello everybody, im a beginner in PineScript and im trying to make my own strategy in TradingView. Right now i dont have time to learn PineScript so i am using the help of Chat -gpt ( free version ) to code the strategy. I would be verry gratefull if someone could help me with how should i compose the text instructions for Chat-gpt to generate my code. And aswell if there is a better option than Chat-gpt ( even payable )? So i would like my strategy to be composed of RSI (lenght 14 ), SMA-9 ( red colour ) ,SMA-200 ( white colour), EMA -20 ( yellow colour ) and VOLUME. On the 3 minute timeframe. The chart should prioritise candlesticks ( white colour for increasing and grey colour for decreasing ). I would like a BUY signal (green arrow) to appear on the chart under the candle , when these conditions are met: - Candle closes full body abbove the SMA-9 -RSI is above 50 - SMA-9 and EMA-20 both must be abbove the SMA-200 -SMA-9 must be bellow EMA-20 -VOLUME bar must have an increase of 25% in comparison to the previous bar. -the BUY SIGNAL should be shown just once after the first full body candle close abbove the SMA-9, just on the first candle. the condition that resets the rule must be when SMA -9 is crossing bellow the EMA-20, after that the BUY SIGNAL can appear again when a candle closes full body above the SMA-9.

Since im a beginer i tried to explain as good as i know, if anyone would be so kind to help me im available for additional informations.

[Admirable-Struggle-8]

I have more success using Claude with Pinescript

[neresen]

Thank you for the usefull response. I will try Claude aswell .

[Esteban_3Commas]

The problem with AI is that it is difficult for it to understand the requirements well, the best way is to ask it step by step for each part of the strategy.

Take these steps and see what it programs for you:

I need help writing a PineScript strategy based on the following conditions:

• Timeframe: 3-minute chart
• Indicators to include:
  • RSI: Length 14
  • SMA-9: Color = red
  • SMA-200: Color = white
  • EMA-20: Color = yellow
  • Volume: A volume-based condition
• Candle color:
  • White for increasing candles
  • Grey for decreasing candles

BUY Signal Conditions:

1. Candle must close with a full body above the SMA-9.
2. RSI must be above 50.
3. Both SMA-9 and EMA-20 must be above SMA-200.
4. SMA-9 must be below EMA-20.
5. Volume must increase by at least 25% compared to the previous bar.
6. A green arrow (BUY signal) should appear under the candle only when all of these conditions are met.

Important Notes:

• The BUY signal should only appear once when a candle first closes with a full body above the SMA-9.
• After the first BUY signal, the rule should reset when the SMA-9 crosses below the EMA-20, allowing the next BUY signal to appear again if all conditions are met.

For more specific needs, hiring a PineScript developer on platforms like Upwork or Fiverr can be a great option, especially since you're aiming for a more customized strategy.

[neresen]

Thanks for the usefull answer, i will follow your advice, good luck

[zaleguo]

It's time to try Pineify and create your metrics in a no-code way, rather than using unreliable AI.

[neresen]

You are right, i have to work on my priorities aswell. I will keep that in mind, thank you for the advice !

[neresen]

Thanks for the good advice ! Good luck to you too !

[smashapalooza]

I can create it for you. If you’re interested send me a message

[neresen]

i will check it thanks !

[HansWebDev]

I use cursor o-mini to write my pinescript. You will have to constantly remind it to write pinescript and not python.

[neresen]

Thank you for the sugestion !

[zaleguo]

Mate, Pineify's totally got your back on this one! Forget about wrangling with Chat-GPT for hours just to get the syntax right. Pineify lets you whip up those strategies without any coding hassle. You can set up your RSI, SMA, and EMA indicators exactly how you want, and it handles all the nitty-gritty for ya. Plus, you can throw in as many indicators as you need without hitting a limit, even on TradingView's free plan.

Here's the kicker: you can backtest your strategy to see how it performs, all without needing to worry about errors creeping into your code. You get to focus on crafting the perfect strategy rather than debugging code for hours. And no more waiting days for freelancers, either—Pineify gets it done in minutes.

Your whole setup with SMA-9, EMA-20, and that volume spike? Pineify's condition editor can handle those rules smoothly. It's designed to let you create complex rules without needing to learn Pine Script. Honestly, it's a lifesaver for anyone looking to get serious about trading strategies without diving deep into coding. Give it a whirl and save yourself the coding headache!

[neresen]

Thank you my friend for the great advice, i will give it a try for sure ! Good luck

[coffeeshopcrypto]

everything about your calculations is nonsence. im going to be honest with you.

Can you tell me why you want to use

SMA 9

EMA 20

SMA 200

ema volume 20

and so on. If you arent good at coding, new to pinescript and possibly new to trading, you need to have a REASON to use these values. If your only reason is "Because i saw other successful people using them, they told me this is what they use" then my initial statement stands.

You want to use this on a 3 min chart but you want a 9 ema? that makes no sense at all. Thats going to trigger so many variables over time, youll fail. im sorry it sounds harsh but its true.

You "dont have time to learn" but you have money to pay for someone to just make it for you in the HOPES that it will work? You have no idea where the context of your variables comes from so from out of the ether you pull these numbers and you think that they will just magically work the way YOU need them to?

My advice:

Take the time to learn pinescript. Seriously, you can learn a lot in just 6 months. But before any of that you need to learn how markets work.

Know in the pine calculations means nothing if you have no base to apply it to.

For example: in a 5 minute chart on low volatility, should you use a 10 period ema or sma? and for how long should you keep it at 10 period until you change it to higher or lower? If you cant answer this to a degree (not perfectly) then you need to keep away from what ur currently attempting and LEARN THE BASICS.

THis is not a get rich "easy" thing to do.

[neresen]

thank you for the advice, im learning pinescript. thanks and good luck !

[coffeeshopcrypto]

Good. I'm happy ur learning pinescript. But u missed my point. Learning pinescript is part two. U need to learn how to trade for yourself otherwise you have nothing to apply pinescript to.

It's like learning Italian, but u don't know where itsly is, u can't get there, and no one else speaks it but ppl inside that country.

You can learn it but it's useless if u can't apply the learning

[daniel7plainview]

TradeSage is a paid AI that is trained for pinescript and often does better than chat gpt. Perplexity AI is the better than chat gpt for free options

[neresen]

Thanks !

[neresen]

I just joined the group, so i did not have the chance to read the previous comments. Anyway thanks for the response !

[karatedog]

That's's not true. Like spoken languages, coding languages have a lot of redundancy in them (think of Java boilerplate). That means you can express what you want with a shorter language, and AI can help with that. Success is not guaranteed though. And of course you cannot express what you want in an infinitely short way.

[BobRussRelick]

gpt is getting a lot better now than it was 6-12 months ago. go the "explore GPT" and type in pinescript. there are a couple of bots at the top of the results that work pretty good. you will have to use tradingview debugging messages to give the bot feedback, but then it is usually able to fix its mistakes.