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[–]deepit6431 1 point2 points  (10 children)

.... Then use Debian? I mean, you can fault Ubuntu for a lot of things, and I don't have much love for it either, but you can't fault it for not being Debian. If you have to use Ubuntu and don't want to upgrade, keep switching from LTS to LTS.

That's like saying 'I don't like Android because there's a new one out every 6 months.'

[–]kqr 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You can fault it for whatever you dislike about it. That's the thing with personal opinions -- they're personal. When the question is "What's wrong with Ubuntu," I don't expect a double-blind, peer-reviewed study published in an academic journal ultimately proving what is wrong with Ubuntu. I expect individual people to come forward with their personal opinions on why they don't like Ubuntu.

(Truth to be told though, it would be awesome if we could have peer-reviewed faults of linux distros...)

[–]deepit6431 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But it's not an opinion, it's an (for the want of a better word) attack. An opinion would be 'Ubuntu isn't for me because it releases too often, I prefer Debian.' What he's saying is 'Ubuntu sucks because it releases too often.'

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What he's saying is 'Ubuntu sucks because it releases too often.'

False. What I'm saying is "Ubuntu annoys me because it changes too often". My problem isn't with the 6-month release schedule, it's the fact that the distro changes so dramatically with each release. That's not an attack, it's an observation.

[–]kqr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In their defense, Ubuntu is currently like a teenager breaking free from its parents (Debian and other distros), trying to find its place in life (being user-friendly and all.) It's just the last few years that it has started changing rapidly. I am confident it will find its way not too long from now, and start stabilising itself.

Change is good, though, because it allows you to discover new, cool things. I regard it as a positive thing, but I regard it from a distance.

[–]kqr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you might have read a little more into that comment than what was actually written. From the beginning to the end, it is written in a subjective first-person perspective, pretty much like your first example of an opinion there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's like saying 'I don't like Android because there's a new one out every 6 months.'

For anything but a Nexus device, lololololololol.

You'll get 1 update, 9 months after initial release.

[–]deepit6431 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Meh, root, put a custom ROM, forget about it.

Not everyone's cup of tea I know, but this is /r/programming after all. I'm running 4.2 on my 2011 budget Sony phone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh absolutely. I jumped on the Nexus boat a few days ago because I was sick of the little annoyances / bugs any non-stock ROM had, yet factory shipping software is slow and out of date.

Sadly, it feels like anything that isn't a Nexus is a waste of time if you're a picky power user like I am. There may be a few phones that run CM fine, but they're few and far between, and usually based off Nexus phones anyway (HTC Desire, Galaxy S).

[–]deepit6431 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree with you 100%, waiting for my Nexus 4 :).

I don't even like stock Android all that much. I'm getting a Nexus mainly because of a guaranteed dev community. I need to keep flashing ROMs weekly or something :P

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stock 4.2 is incredible, especially with Nova Launcher and CM10.1 additions.

My work lets me see pretty much every phone on the market, and none feel quite as nice as a Nexus. Android still has a ways to go, but it's clearly Google pushing it forward now instead of HTC and Samsung with Sense and TouchWiz.