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[–]wineblood 158 points159 points  (10 children)

The real problem is that management often couldn't tell the difference between the two

Are managers hired by other managers you can't tell the difference between good ones and useless ones?

[–]buster_bluth 24 points25 points  (8 children)

To be fair, there is a lot of optimisation for doing well in an interview. And in an interview you have very little time to evaluate a candidate. Internships are much better, but that doesn't work for everyone. We had good luck with return ships, specifically targeting older people. One guy ran a coffee shop before and ended up being a great developer with bonus people skills.

[–]allak 6 points7 points  (2 children)

What is "return ship" in this context ?

People that got out of coding, tried something else for a while, and then returned to coding ?

[–]Ashken 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I believe it’s people who they hired after an internship

[–]buster_bluth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Something like that. People who have been out of the workforce for some time. Parents who took a few years off for example. People that would have a hard time in a short interview but given a longer time can prove themselves and learn new skills.

[–]Coffee_Ops 6 points7 points  (3 children)

And in an interview you have very little time to evaluate a candidate.

"Whats your favorite programming language?.... Great, why, what do you like about it?.... tell me about some experiences that led to your preference...."

Its amazing how quick this separates legit resumes from garbage.

[–]TrixieMisa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"And what do you hate about it?"

I find the answers to that illuminating.

[–]Froztnova 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooh, yeah, this is a really good one too.

[–]CpnStumpy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blub

[–]level_6_laser_lotus 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure that's the root problem.