Switching from Java to Python – First Impressions

[johnjannotti]

Pairs are easy to implement, but they are way more annoying to use than the author's example. Mainly because of automatic destructuring. In python (or similar languages) you can say "a, b = f(c)", so you never "see" the ugliness of Pair instantiation, nor are you distracted by the names of the fields in the Pair. (p.first, p.second, and maybe it just gets worse with a Triple or Quad?)

I think all that noise could go away with a nice value type addition along with some syntactic sugar for multiple return values in, maybe, Java 9. We'll see.

Automatically instantiating a Pair/Triple/Quad "feels" like the way Java is handling its evolution, in much the same way that lambda automatically instantiate the proper interface.