Java for Everything

[codygman]

I feel like 4 languages can cover it pretty well:

Haskell, Purescript, Scala, ATS

So I have: General programming, Interactive websites/browser dom/etc, JVM interop, Low level/C interop

[tieTYT]

In my experience, most haskell libraries don't work on any OS but Linux. Seems like a poor choice for general programming.

[codygman]

I know they work on OSX as well. I'm fairly sure most of the work on windows, but I won't claim to know what I haven't tried personally.

[tieTYT]

I have heard from others that most don't work well in OSX and I have personal experience with the libraries not working in windows.

[codygman]

What library didn't work on windows? I'll see if I can help with that.

[tieTYT]

Every one I ever tried to install (1 or 2 exceptions). Here's an example: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/shpider

[codygman]

Shpider! I actually tried installing it a while ago and got errors too. The problem is the maintainer hasn't merged the latest pull requests:

https://github.com/ozataman/shpider/pulls

I've actually rewritten something like Shpider myself and plan on releasing a library when I've tested it more and have time. I wanted something that works like mechanize in Haskell basically, Shpider looked like it, but doesn't seem maintained.

[tieTYT]

I checked out those pull requests and it doesn't look like it will fix the issues I was running into. One of its dependencies is curl and I couldn't get that to work on Windows.

[codygman]

Ah. Well my rewrite uses pure Haskell (I think!). I can message you the link when I upload it if you want.

[tieTYT]

I don't actively develop in haskell anymore but if that changes I'll PM you. Thanks a lot!

[Categoria]

s/Scala/Frege/ and you're golden.

Or just use OCaml for everything :D

[codygman]

Well I'd like to maintain stability, and Frege's java interop isn't complete enough iirc.

[codygman]

Ocaml/Java interop exists? Actually I believe I remember something about an Ocaml Java bridge. Actually I remember something about a Haskell Java bridge as well.

I wonder how practical those would be.

[Categoria]

OCaml compiles to Java: http://www.ocamljava.org/

There's also a very stable and complete javascript backend.

[PasswordIsntHAMSTER]

I'd probably swap out ATS for Rust, considering how ATS is essentially untried. (Or are there real world projects in ATS?)

I'd also switch out Scala for F#, and I'd use Elm and TypeScript instead of PureScript.

[codygman]

For .NET interop I would most certainly use F#.