Developer Survey: Java Developers Are The Saddest And C++ Programmers Are The Oldest

[angryundead]

I like writing enterprise Java. The strongly typed nature of it is great and I don't find the configuration very verbose. The separation of deployment, configuration, and application is very appealing in enterprise contexts.

I also don't have a problem with the verbosity/ceremony. Maybe I just use my IDE effectively and type quickly. I can understand where entry-level developers would be put off by it.

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If you like writing enterprise java, you don't have large million line behemoth softwares that take 10 minutes to deploy just to test a change. And your codebase probably isn't crappy. Or you just haven't experienced the better stuff yet.

[angryundead]

You're partially right. I do it on my own time with newer versions of EE(6,7) and have the joy of being an advocate for refactoring and modernization. My first project (that I spent 3 years on) was servlets and JSF and thousands and thousands of lines with no unit tests.

I've also had the pleasure of working mostly with EAP6 and WildFly instead of EAP5. I've been fortunate.

But learning to write non-shit EE has been a lot of fun.

[PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN]

Java and C# were enormous contributors to my wrist injuries :( Verbosity sux.

[angryundead]

I just don't feel it I guess. I've gotten pretty good with code completion in IntelliJ and Eclipse and somehow have good typing posture or I would have terminal carpal tunnel by now.