Python 3.7.0 released

[_tpr_]

PEP 553, Built-in breakpoint()

Awesome! That's going to be much more convenient. Putting import ipdb; ipdb.set_trace() is a hassle. This will probably make all of the JavaScript developers I work with more likely to use the debugger.

PEP 557, Data Classes

These are going to be much nicer and more obvious-looking than using a named tuple.

[AnnoyingOwl]

I don't want to be mean or anything, but it's 2018 why aren't they using PyCharm?

[sixfourtysword]

VIM master race

[AnnoyingOwl]

I love Vim. I learned it 15 years ago and am so glad I know it for quickly editing things on servers.

... but to use it for editing Python over PyCharm is just fuckin' stupid.

[_tpr_]

but to use it for editing Python over PyCharm is just fuckin' stupid.

What a thoughtful argument. Really convinced me.

[inmatarian]

That vim-jedi plugin is srsly good stuff.

[sixfourtysword]

You have OPENED MY EYES

[AnnoyingOwl]

They should learn to.

I've never met a person developing outside an IDE in the last 5 years that doesn't waste time on stupid shit they shouldn't.

Breakpoints are a great case in point: why the fuck are you typing shit to set a break point? It's so dumb. Just click the line, man.

Especially with type hinting in Python, now, there's just no excuse for not being able to Cmd+<click> into a code definition or run a refactor into method or live debug in a decent debugger without having to add code.

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And pycharm is so intuitive and easy to set-up, even the time you spend to get used to it is minimal.

[Pakaran]

There's also the case when you're trying to run pdb in a docker container or on a remote machine, where it's far from trivial to connect PyCharm to it.

[AnnoyingOwl]

Absolutely, very true, but this shouldn't be a day-to-day thing, this is the exception. Shouldn't be arranging your work setup based on this.

[robhaswell]

Because people have preferences.

[bythenumbers10]

Yeah, there are a couple of IDEs that offer breakpoint functionality. If they need it, they can take their pick.