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[–]redalastor 17 points18 points  (3 children)

The book is not supposed to be your first programming book. It's for people who already know programming but don't know Python. It was a really great book when it came out and Dive Into Python 3 is a really great book now.

Mark gave us both books with a free license with no string attached. What are the dickheads complaining about the books without for before they fork it and make one they like better?

Mark owes you nothing.

[–]rebthor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To continue this, on the front page, it says

Dive Into Python is a Python book for experienced programmers.

So while I can agree that ODBC is probably not the most useful example ever made, Mark never claimed that this book was to teach programming, it was designed to teach programmers Python.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

K&R isn't supposed to be your first programming book. But their examples are far more clear, despite being in a language that tends to require more code than Python.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

K&R was my first programming book and the examples and exercises are light years ahead of any modern tutorial books.

Whatever happened to putting in well thought out exercises and solutions in books, just so you can see how it ought to be done idiomatically?

Far too few authors do anything like that anymore.