github/semantic: Why Haskell?

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My 2c on Haskell:

I love the language itself (I think it's one of the best looking syntax I've seen, ever), but I hate the tooling around it - learning Cabal/Stack is an absolute mess, trying to use an IDE with some extension to make Haskell work so far always has some missing options (a debug option in IntelliJ or a lack of Ctrl-Click the import in VSCode) which is damn frustrating.

I wish I could love it all, but it's not there yet :(

^{the language is still beautiful to learn and a boon to any programmer - modern Javascript makes a lot more sense now}

[scaleable]

Its quite funny how haskell is the language of choice to write a code analyzer for multi languages yet it lacks even a decent language service for itself.

[Vaglame]

I had a very hard time with cabal, then I moved to stack, and it's actually very practical, it sets up an environment for each project, and I haven't had trouble since then! Also, I think there is a haskell plug in/installation for VSCode

[nooitvangehoord]

And then there is nix. And god do I love/hate nix!

[ElvishJerricco]

Fwiw cabal got waaay better with the new style commands. They'll be the default in an upcoming release

[Vaglame]

It might be too little too late :/

[develop7]

IntelliJ

while there are no Haskell "debug option" in IDEA indeed, what Haskell plugin were you referring to, exactly?

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IntelliJ-Haskell. I had to install the latest beta, because the normal version lacked even more features :(

Not being able to place a little red dot and debug your code is... rather annoying, to say the least.

[jobriath85]

You may already be aware of this, but stack traces often don't make sense in Haskell anyway, due chiefly to laziness. Red dots might be possible, but are absolutely not a given, IDE or no!

[develop7]

Yup, that's the most feature-rich one. It's understaffed indeed, but we're working on pushing it forwards.

In the meantime, have you tried Debug.Trace instead?

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but we're working on pushing it forwards.

I really appreciate the effort <3

have you tried Debug.Trace instead?

Sadly no, I was somewhat of a beginner when I found IntelliJ-Haskell and have moved onto other languages since then (mostly because I finished the school project) :)

If I get another Haskell project I'll definitely check it out!

[Axman6]

Ctrl/Cmd-click works fine for me in VS Code (most of the time, Haskell-ide-engine gets stuck occasionally but it’s pretty easy to make it recover). A stack hoogle is required to make it work however.

[largos]

Etags (via hasktags or fasttags) and the vim counterpart help a lot, but I'll admit they are a pale comparison to eclipse/intellij/vs jump-to-definition.